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Here's an equivalent form for MasterCard: https://www.mastercard.us/en-us/vision/corp-responsibility/commitment-to-privacy/privacy/data-analytics-opt-out.html h

Here's an equivalent form for MasterCard: https://www.mastercard.us/en-us/vision/corp-responsibility/commitment-to-privacy/privacy/data-analytics-opt-out.html https://www.mastercard.us/en-us/vision/corp-responsibility/c...

cwt137 6y ago
I get "System Error" when I submit my card number
- alpb 6y ago
  Same here. I have a suspicion like they designed it for 5 queries/day and we just blew it.
  - alpb 6y ago
    So I tried it again after 24 hours on two different cards. First one worked right off the bat. Second one gave "System error" three times one row and worked on the fourth try. I think we’re looking at some real "enterprise-grade" software on MasterCard side.
- johnjungles 6y ago
  Same here, “System error”
- bbarnett 6y ago
  If this is about the MC form, I found that if I pasted my CC number (such as from a pass manager), it would bork unless: - I entered the number - Then moved to the front of the input field - Deleted a char, and re-entered it, because - an end-of-field char change removes the whole number Wait a sec, even two seconds, and the number will auto-obscure. Then it works.
- agentdrtran 6y ago
  I got this in Chrome, it worked in Edge
SV_BubbleTime 6y ago
Perfect. I was wondering if it was the same site because the are the same company, or aren’t, IDK.
owenversteeg 6y ago
Anyone have one for Amex? Or Discover? (or JCB? What other weird cards do HN users even have?)
- Triv888 6y ago
  For Amex, I found this: https://global.americanexpress.com/account-management/privacy-preferences https://global.americanexpress.com/account-management/privac... (Maybe the checkbox at the bottom does a similar thing)
  - jbm 6y ago
    Sadly that option doesn't even exist on the Canadian site for whatever reason. I did manage to find this (https://optout.aboutads.info/?c=3&lang=en https://optout.aboutads.info/?c=3&lang=en) which they claim to honour. I probably should be purging cookies more often :/
imajoredinecon 6y ago
Is it just me, or is the wording hugely misleading? > To opt-out from our anonymization of your personal information to perform data analyses, please provide your Mastercard or Maestro payment card number What we're opting out from is the use of the data, right? I guess the charitable interpretation is that this was written by somebody incompetent, not by someone trying to be deliberately obfuscatory...
- clusterfish 6y ago
  Pretty obvious to me that this text being misleading is deliberate. Certainly went through some expensive lawyers to get it just barely defensible enough.
- c3534l 6y ago
  Its the banking industry: it is intentionally misleading/ They've gotten in trouble for it a number of times and even when the Obama administration cracked down on it, they eventually learned how to legally make their fine print incomprehensible again after a few years.
  - repsilat 6y ago
    This post contains some strong statements. Some are likely not verifiable here ("it is intentionally misleading"), but others ("the Obama administration cracked down on it") deserve sources, even if well attested -- they're not common knowledge.
    - dmix 6y ago
      That's a good point, those contain assumptions that need some backing up because they might not hold up water, even if it's the common perception in politics of American culture. But otherwise it probably comes down to occams razor and they had some random corporate web guy half-ass the copy on the website which they aren't investing any sort of high quality resources. It's easy to mistake poor workmanship or miss information as some sort of purposeful evasion. Hell, another scenario is the lawyers gave it a run by an neutered the text in an effort to make it non-liable and no-one decided to make it readable again. Not that I like defending these monopolies. Just some better understanding of how things like this work IRL over the years.
cadecairos 6y ago
Same, but for Canadian card holders: https://www.mastercard.ca/en-ca/about-mastercard/what-we-do/privacy/data-analytics-opt-out.html https://www.mastercard.ca/en-ca/about-mastercard/what-we-do/...
xyst 6y ago
I wish these provided a confirmation number or receipt
elitistphoenix 6y ago
Same but for Australian card holders. Interestingly or maybe deliberately the captcha doesn't show so you can't submit. https://www.mastercard.com.au/en-au/about-mastercard/what-we-do/privacy/data-analytics-opt-out.html https://www.mastercard.com.au/en-au/about-mastercard/what-we...

cwt137 6y ago

I get "System Error" when I submit my card number

alpb 6y ago
Same here. I have a suspicion like they designed it for 5 queries/day and we just blew it.
- alpb 6y ago
  So I tried it again after 24 hours on two different cards. First one worked right off the bat. Second one gave "System error" three times one row and worked on the fourth try. I think we’re looking at some real "enterprise-grade" software on MasterCard side.
johnjungles 6y ago
Same here, “System error”
bbarnett 6y ago
If this is about the MC form, I found that if I pasted my CC number (such as from a pass manager), it would bork unless: - I entered the number - Then moved to the front of the input field - Deleted a char, and re-entered it, because - an end-of-field char change removes the whole number Wait a sec, even two seconds, and the number will auto-obscure. Then it works.
agentdrtran 6y ago
I got this in Chrome, it worked in Edge

SV_BubbleTime 6y ago

Perfect. I was wondering if it was the same site because the are the same company, or aren’t, IDK.

owenversteeg 6y ago

Anyone have one for Amex? Or Discover? (or JCB? What other weird cards do HN users even have?)

Triv888 6y ago
For Amex, I found this: https://global.americanexpress.com/account-management/privacy-preferences https://global.americanexpress.com/account-management/privac... (Maybe the checkbox at the bottom does a similar thing)
- jbm 6y ago
  Sadly that option doesn't even exist on the Canadian site for whatever reason. I did manage to find this (https://optout.aboutads.info/?c=3&lang=en https://optout.aboutads.info/?c=3&lang=en) which they claim to honour. I probably should be purging cookies more often :/

imajoredinecon 6y ago

Is it just me, or is the wording hugely misleading? > To opt-out from our anonymization of your personal information to perform data analyses, please provide your Mastercard or Maestro payment card number What we're opting out from is the use of the data, right? I guess the charitable interpretation is that this was written by somebody incompetent, not by someone trying to be deliberately obfuscatory...

clusterfish 6y ago
Pretty obvious to me that this text being misleading is deliberate. Certainly went through some expensive lawyers to get it just barely defensible enough.
c3534l 6y ago
Its the banking industry: it is intentionally misleading/ They've gotten in trouble for it a number of times and even when the Obama administration cracked down on it, they eventually learned how to legally make their fine print incomprehensible again after a few years.
- repsilat 6y ago
  This post contains some strong statements. Some are likely not verifiable here ("it is intentionally misleading"), but others ("the Obama administration cracked down on it") deserve sources, even if well attested -- they're not common knowledge.
  - dmix 6y ago
    That's a good point, those contain assumptions that need some backing up because they might not hold up water, even if it's the common perception in politics of American culture. But otherwise it probably comes down to occams razor and they had some random corporate web guy half-ass the copy on the website which they aren't investing any sort of high quality resources. It's easy to mistake poor workmanship or miss information as some sort of purposeful evasion. Hell, another scenario is the lawyers gave it a run by an neutered the text in an effort to make it non-liable and no-one decided to make it readable again. Not that I like defending these monopolies. Just some better understanding of how things like this work IRL over the years.

cadecairos 6y ago

Same, but for Canadian card holders: https://www.mastercard.ca/en-ca/about-mastercard/what-we-do/privacy/data-analytics-opt-out.html https://www.mastercard.ca/en-ca/about-mastercard/what-we-do/...

xyst 6y ago

I wish these provided a confirmation number or receipt

elitistphoenix 6y ago

Same but for Australian card holders. Interestingly or maybe deliberately the captcha doesn't show so you can't submit. https://www.mastercard.com.au/en-au/about-mastercard/what-we-do/privacy/data-analytics-opt-out.html https://www.mastercard.com.au/en-au/about-mastercard/what-we...