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Wave of better built electric cars is coming from all the regular car manufactures. The Ford mach e is the latest one. Better made car. But ford doesn't yet hav

Wave of better built electric cars is coming from all the regular car manufactures. The Ford mach e is the latest one. Better made car. But ford doesn't yet have fast charge network built out.

indemnity 6y ago
I simply don’t understand what Tesla’s moat is once the other companies have the same range / performance. The build quality and ride comfort of my gas Audi surpass that of an equivalently priced Tesla by miles, once they have a comparable electric car, that’s what I’ll buy. The current e-tron is not it, but VAG built the super impressive Taycan, they’ll figure it out.
- cptskippy 6y ago
  > I simply don’t understand what Tesla’s moat is... You said it yourself, no other car maker has their range, performance, and price. An Audi priced similarly to a Tesla has a better trim because EVs cost more. Audi couldn't built anything with comparable price, performance, range, and Audi interior trim quality. > VAG built the super impressive Taycan, they’ll figure it out. What's super impressive about it? I'm not saying it isn't nice but only manages to beat a Model S on track performance. In all other aspects, it's inferior.
  - namdnay 6y ago
    I think whats impressive about the Taycan is that the performance is reproducible time and time again, like an ICE car. It doesn’t overheat. So you can cane it on the Autobahn for 45mn until the battery runs out, instead of for 5mn until it overheats. I agree that there isn’t any impact to real world driving, but then again any car above 200hp isn’t really making a difference to real world driving
cptskippy 6y ago
> Better made car. In what regards? Teslas are mechanically sound, the paint and panel gaps seem to be the biggest complaint. > The Ford mach e is the latest one. Is the build quality different than what's in their current car and truck lines? Ford interiors have always been utter garbage IMO. There's nothing like plugging a USB cable into a USB port and then trying to unplug it and the whole interior trim panel comes off instead. And the squeaks and creaks... We could compare to Fiat Chrysler who is "Highest in Initial Quality" by JD Powers. The chrome starts to rub of the interior finishes inside 18 months. The paint oxidizes on the exterior in roughly the same time.
- dukeofdoom 6y ago
  I prefer the interior finish of the Ford. Here is a direct comparison of the model Y and the Mach E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUjDBYQkhwM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUjDBYQkhwM
  - cptskippy 6y ago
    Your personal preference doesn't equate to it being better made. Everyone always points to incumbents making "better" cars than Tesla but rarely explain what that means. Sometimes they mock paint or panel gaps. If they were comparing to a Honda or Toyota then sure, but it's always one of the big three in the comparison.

Wave of better built electric cars is coming from all the regular car manufactures. The Ford mach e is the latest one. Better made car. But ford doesn't yet have fast charge network built out.

indemnity 6y ago

I simply don’t understand what Tesla’s moat is once the other companies have the same range / performance. The build quality and ride comfort of my gas Audi surpass that of an equivalently priced Tesla by miles, once they have a comparable electric car, that’s what I’ll buy. The current e-tron is not it, but VAG built the super impressive Taycan, they’ll figure it out.

cptskippy 6y ago
> I simply don’t understand what Tesla’s moat is... You said it yourself, no other car maker has their range, performance, and price. An Audi priced similarly to a Tesla has a better trim because EVs cost more. Audi couldn't built anything with comparable price, performance, range, and Audi interior trim quality. > VAG built the super impressive Taycan, they’ll figure it out. What's super impressive about it? I'm not saying it isn't nice but only manages to beat a Model S on track performance. In all other aspects, it's inferior.
- namdnay 6y ago
  I think whats impressive about the Taycan is that the performance is reproducible time and time again, like an ICE car. It doesn’t overheat. So you can cane it on the Autobahn for 45mn until the battery runs out, instead of for 5mn until it overheats. I agree that there isn’t any impact to real world driving, but then again any car above 200hp isn’t really making a difference to real world driving

cptskippy 6y ago

> Better made car. In what regards? Teslas are mechanically sound, the paint and panel gaps seem to be the biggest complaint. > The Ford mach e is the latest one. Is the build quality different than what's in their current car and truck lines? Ford interiors have always been utter garbage IMO. There's nothing like plugging a USB cable into a USB port and then trying to unplug it and the whole interior trim panel comes off instead. And the squeaks and creaks... We could compare to Fiat Chrysler who is "Highest in Initial Quality" by JD Powers. The chrome starts to rub of the interior finishes inside 18 months. The paint oxidizes on the exterior in roughly the same time.

dukeofdoom 6y ago
I prefer the interior finish of the Ford. Here is a direct comparison of the model Y and the Mach E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUjDBYQkhwM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUjDBYQkhwM
- cptskippy 6y ago
  Your personal preference doesn't equate to it being better made. Everyone always points to incumbents making "better" cars than Tesla but rarely explain what that means. Sometimes they mock paint or panel gaps. If they were comparing to a Honda or Toyota then sure, but it's always one of the big three in the comparison.