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Opera was trying to make money in a commoditized environment. Honestly, i do not believe that Flow has much of a future as a proprietary product for providing

Opera was trying to make money in a commoditized environment. Honestly, i do not believe that Flow has much of a future as a proprietary product for providing a browser engine no matter how good it supposedly is - even Sciter presents itself as a UI engine, not a browser engine. However that doesn't mean writing a new browser engine is impossible, it only means that it doesn't make much economic sense for a company to do so. Those two are not the same thing.

paulryanrogers 6y ago
Can we agree it's impractical, even if technically possible?
lucideer 6y ago
> Opera was trying to make money in a commoditized environment. From what I can tell, Ekioh appear to be doing the same[0] > that doesn't mean writing a new browser engine is impossible, it only means that it doesn't make much economic sense for a company to do so. Those two are not the same thing. This is basically what I said in my first comment above: it's always technically possible, but is it practically possible. One needs a certain small amount of economic support to continue any project (no matter how small) these days. Whether it's feasible via donations/etc. or whether some kind of commercial setup is required isn't really super-relevant. The only question here is: if it's the former, can the income support employing devs to work on it, or can voluntary developer contributions maintain the project long term (for which you typically need a large community, with which you typically get further scaling & cost concerns). It's notable also that Flow is not open source, so Opera is actually a very good comparison here (and much of the above donation/volunteer-based thoughts are not options here). [0] https://www.ekioh.com/company/#partners https://www.ekioh.com/company/#partners
- gsnedders 6y ago
  Ekioh is essentially a competitor of Vewd, the former TV/devices part of Opera.

paulryanrogers 6y ago

Can we agree it's impractical, even if technically possible?

lucideer 6y ago

> Opera was trying to make money in a commoditized environment. From what I can tell, Ekioh appear to be doing the same[0] > that doesn't mean writing a new browser engine is impossible, it only means that it doesn't make much economic sense for a company to do so. Those two are not the same thing. This is basically what I said in my first comment above: it's always technically possible, but is it practically possible. One needs a certain small amount of economic support to continue any project (no matter how small) these days. Whether it's feasible via donations/etc. or whether some kind of commercial setup is required isn't really super-relevant. The only question here is: if it's the former, can the income support employing devs to work on it, or can voluntary developer contributions maintain the project long term (for which you typically need a large community, with which you typically get further scaling & cost concerns). It's notable also that Flow is not open source, so Opera is actually a very good comparison here (and much of the above donation/volunteer-based thoughts are not options here). [0] https://www.ekioh.com/company/#partners https://www.ekioh.com/company/#partners

gsnedders 6y ago
Ekioh is essentially a competitor of Vewd, the former TV/devices part of Opera.