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Once again you kept assuming that I support the zero tolerance policy, to then even accusing me of trolling. > If the zero tolerance policy isn't the school po

Once again you kept assuming that I support the zero tolerance policy, to then even accusing me of trolling. > If the zero tolerance policy isn't the school policy you were speaking about, then what is? There is extensive literature on the topic in pedagogy and it often applies to adults surprisingly well. - hire psychologists instead of cops - fire any teacher that sees bullying and ignores it on purpose - require teachers to talk about the problem. Silence and "boys will be boys" bullshit is a huge enabler. - teach teachers the basics of psychology to spot patterns in students at risk - encourage students to talk to psychologists - require teachers to walk around the school and don't leave areas where teachers never go - teach students de-escalation. Yes it's as skill and it can be learned like other skills

giantg2 6y ago
You were clearly against the people defending themselves in your original reply (saying it won't fix anything) and want school policies to fix things. The policies you are listing are already in use! Why hasn't the issue been solved?
- eeZah7Ux 6y ago
  > You were clearly against the people defending themselves in your original reply No, don't twist my words: I'm against the culture of pushing the burden of defending oneself onto the victim. Because it's literally victim blaming. I'm also against punishing the victim in case they defend themselves, because it's also victim blaming. This is nothing new. Most legal systems treat adults crime victims with a similar principle.
  - giantg2 6y ago
    "No, don't twist my words: I'm against the culture of pushing the burden of defending oneself onto the victim. Because it's literally victim blaming." Then why did you respond the way you did? I never blamed victims. My post was that zero tolerance policies prevent a victim from defending themself. You said that victims cannot stop the bullying and that the school needs policies to do so, but without the police.

giantg2 6y ago

You were clearly against the people defending themselves in your original reply (saying it won't fix anything) and want school policies to fix things. The policies you are listing are already in use! Why hasn't the issue been solved?

eeZah7Ux 6y ago
> You were clearly against the people defending themselves in your original reply No, don't twist my words: I'm against the culture of pushing the burden of defending oneself onto the victim. Because it's literally victim blaming. I'm also against punishing the victim in case they defend themselves, because it's also victim blaming. This is nothing new. Most legal systems treat adults crime victims with a similar principle.
- giantg2 6y ago
  "No, don't twist my words: I'm against the culture of pushing the burden of defending oneself onto the victim. Because it's literally victim blaming." Then why did you respond the way you did? I never blamed victims. My post was that zero tolerance policies prevent a victim from defending themself. You said that victims cannot stop the bullying and that the school needs policies to do so, but without the police.