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You may underestimate how expensive imaging sensors are in low quantities, a sensor available in single quantities at mouser is the cmosis cmv1200 apsc sensor f

You may underestimate how expensive imaging sensors are in low quantities, a sensor available in single quantities at mouser is the cmosis cmv1200 apsc sensor for $1600-1800 a piece, full frame cmv5000 is $5000+ afair. A whole ecosystem probably wouldn't get the quantities.

dheera 6y ago
If they want to play that nasty game, maybe the suppliers could buy stock cameras for $1000, desolder them, and reassemble them into hacker-friendly boards for $1200, and then resell the rest of the stock cameras for spare parts (e.g. mechanical shutter assembly) at 1/2 the cost of OEM service. Even if they can scoop up the huge graveyard of e.g. Canon 60Ds that photographers will turn over for $200 a piece, or 6Ds for $500 a piece, reverse engineer them, and recycle them into a Raspberry Pi module, that would be amazing. Even with the CMV12000 though, someone should make a RPi module that "just works", or an alternative RPi that allows it to "just work", for those of us who want to spend our time working on the actual imaging and software ... it's kind of sad there's this huge graveyard of good sensors out there that just can't be used by imaging experts because electronics people gatekeep the industry and only release them at reasonable prices inside consumer devices, which isn't what those imaging experts want at least in terms of programmability, communication, and mounting options.
- altarius 6y ago
  Yea, I would love a high quality sensor that's "programmer accessible". Too bad that nobody besides raspberry pi foundation even attempts that.
  - gmiller123456 6y ago
    Try looking at astrophotography cameras. Many of them have ASCOM drivers which allow pretty much full control of everything. https://ascom-standards.org/Downloads/CameraDrivers.htm https://ascom-standards.org/Downloads/CameraDrivers.htm
    - altarius 6y ago
      Thanks, I just did! Looks like a ZWO ASI294 MC could be interesting. It's "only" Micro 4/3 and $700 in the cheapest config but having USB-3 and drivers may be what I was looking for. Full-frame astro cameras are unfortunately around $5k+ (albeit with a resolution similar to a $3.5k A7RIV).

dheera 6y ago

If they want to play that nasty game, maybe the suppliers could buy stock cameras for $1000, desolder them, and reassemble them into hacker-friendly boards for $1200, and then resell the rest of the stock cameras for spare parts (e.g. mechanical shutter assembly) at 1/2 the cost of OEM service. Even if they can scoop up the huge graveyard of e.g. Canon 60Ds that photographers will turn over for $200 a piece, or 6Ds for $500 a piece, reverse engineer them, and recycle them into a Raspberry Pi module, that would be amazing. Even with the CMV12000 though, someone should make a RPi module that "just works", or an alternative RPi that allows it to "just work", for those of us who want to spend our time working on the actual imaging and software ... it's kind of sad there's this huge graveyard of good sensors out there that just can't be used by imaging experts because electronics people gatekeep the industry and only release them at reasonable prices inside consumer devices, which isn't what those imaging experts want at least in terms of programmability, communication, and mounting options.

altarius 6y ago
Yea, I would love a high quality sensor that's "programmer accessible". Too bad that nobody besides raspberry pi foundation even attempts that.
- gmiller123456 6y ago
  Try looking at astrophotography cameras. Many of them have ASCOM drivers which allow pretty much full control of everything. https://ascom-standards.org/Downloads/CameraDrivers.htm https://ascom-standards.org/Downloads/CameraDrivers.htm
  - altarius 6y ago
    Thanks, I just did! Looks like a ZWO ASI294 MC could be interesting. It's "only" Micro 4/3 and $700 in the cheapest config but having USB-3 and drivers may be what I was looking for. Full-frame astro cameras are unfortunately around $5k+ (albeit with a resolution similar to a $3.5k A7RIV).