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I’m sorry but you can’t just make broad sweeping claims like this with literally zero supporting logic or evidence: > However, making people people believe tha
by ojnabieoot 6y ago
I’m sorry but you can’t just make broad sweeping claims like this with literally zero supporting logic or evidence:
> However, making people people believe that they can eat whatever they want, can be obese and still healthy doesn't help at all... it is very destructive and unhelpful in the long run.
First of all, I can’t think of a single body positivity activist who says “you can eat whatever and you’ll still be healthy.” It doesn’t really help your argument when the first target is a preposterous strawman!
More to the point: body positive ideologies might be damaging in the long run. But it might not be! You have absolutely no evidence either way - nor could you, even in principle! - and it’s extremely irritating to see such strongly-stated ignorance.
One of the major impetuses for the body positivity movement is the incredible danger of anorexia nervosa, which is the most lethal mental illness and has been spiking dramatically since the 80s. And as an unambiguously psychological disorder, nervosa rates are much more easily understood as a consequence of societal views of body image than obesity rates.
To be blunt: although there isn’t extant data, I strongly suspect that body positivity saves more lives than it loses. There will be many more women discouraged from starving themselves than women discouraged from moderate exercise and reasonable diets.
Regardless, obviously the body positivity movement has nothing to do with the 21st century rise in US obesity rates (not to mention Mexico). The problem in both countries is much more agricultural/economic. And it strikes me as a bit ridiculous (or dishonest) to suggest that marginalizing body-positive ideologies can reduce the obesity rate.
- viraptor 6y agoIt depends what people mean by body positivity. If it's "you're not a bad or less worthy person if you're of weight X, and it's ok to accept some realistic compromises" that's one thing. If it's "people only tell you to not be fat to comply with society stereotypes and you can be healthy at any weight", that's something completely different. I've seen both and people don't often clarify their position.
- worik 6y agoTo add: Shaming people about their bodies is not the way to help them loose weight.
- turing_complete 6y agoWell there is data on the impact of obesity [1]. Prevalence: * There are 2 biillion people overweight and 650 million obese globally [2] * There are only about 3 million people with anorexia nervosa [3]. Nevertheless, people should not be treated like children. You can be positivie and empowering without telling them that they shouldn't even bother to try. Help people change their life and get healthy, that is how you build self esteem. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obesity#Effects_on_health https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obesity#Effects_on_health [2]: https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/obesity-and-overweight https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/obesity-and... [3]: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(16)31678-6/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6...