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Have anybody noticed how this topic mysterious lost few hundred points, sank to second page, and then came back to front? There is a noticable tendency for any

Have anybody noticed how this topic mysterious lost few hundred points, sank to second page, and then came back to front? There is a noticable tendency for any China related topics, whether good, or bad to mysteriously disappear from the front page right at the start of the workday Pacific time, and after lunch hours.

DevKoala 6y ago
I can attest to that. Any critic of the CCP tends to sink out of the first page in a matter of minutes. It looks like a concerted effort.
- boruto 6y ago
  I seriously do not think that is the case. I don't know if everyone is paranoid or I am wrong.
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mgh2 6y ago
Yes, it looked like censorship/manipulation, but HN explained it here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25570247 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25570247 I suspect a bias towards Apple though... Note: I highly appreciate the work of the moderators in keeping HN objective, but it is not perfect- humans are naturally biased so this is to be expected...
Causality1 6y ago
Pay attention for a while and you'll notice there's quite a list of topics and positions that are verboten,either because they have a personal army who care about them or there's a finger on the scale. For example, lightly and generally criticizing China will get you a lot of upvotes. Criticizing China in specific ways and proposing strategies of action will get your comment down voted and flagged.
- ricardobeat 6y ago
  It's part of the HN guidelines to avoid political topics: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html I would imagine Apple et al get a pass since they are strong interests of the audience here. Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon.
  - Causality1 6y ago
    That's my point. The rules are only the rules until the bandwagon decides they aren't.
dang 6y ago
There is a noticeable tendency for people with strong feelings on this topic to make up strong narratives about what they think they're seeing on HN. In fact, it's an extremely noticeable tendency. This was a mundane case of merging threads, which is bog standard HN moderation: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25574136 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25574136. I could have just changed the URL on the other one, but preferred to go with the submitter who actually posted the story first and also posted the original article, in keeping with the site guidelines ("Please submit the original source. If a post reports on something found on another site, submit the latter.") https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

DevKoala 6y ago

I can attest to that. Any critic of the CCP tends to sink out of the first page in a matter of minutes. It looks like a concerted effort.

boruto 6y ago
I seriously do not think that is the case. I don't know if everyone is paranoid or I am wrong.

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mgh2 6y ago

Yes, it looked like censorship/manipulation, but HN explained it here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25570247 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25570247 I suspect a bias towards Apple though... Note: I highly appreciate the work of the moderators in keeping HN objective, but it is not perfect- humans are naturally biased so this is to be expected...

Causality1 6y ago

Pay attention for a while and you'll notice there's quite a list of topics and positions that are verboten,either because they have a personal army who care about them or there's a finger on the scale. For example, lightly and generally criticizing China will get you a lot of upvotes. Criticizing China in specific ways and proposing strategies of action will get your comment down voted and flagged.

ricardobeat 6y ago
It's part of the HN guidelines to avoid political topics: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html I would imagine Apple et al get a pass since they are strong interests of the audience here. Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon.
- Causality1 6y ago
  That's my point. The rules are only the rules until the bandwagon decides they aren't.

dang 6y ago

There is a noticeable tendency for people with strong feelings on this topic to make up strong narratives about what they think they're seeing on HN. In fact, it's an extremely noticeable tendency. This was a mundane case of merging threads, which is bog standard HN moderation: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25574136 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25574136. I could have just changed the URL on the other one, but preferred to go with the submitter who actually posted the story first and also posted the original article, in keeping with the site guidelines ("Please submit the original source. If a post reports on something found on another site, submit the latter.") https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html