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This has become quite entertaining. >>Still, are the interior doors more durable than the external doors? Yes. >> Could be easy enough to go into the attic (

This has become quite entertaining. >>Still, are the interior doors more durable than the external doors? Yes. >> Could be easy enough to go into the attic (either with access or by force) and come down in the room in under 5 minutes. Locate the entrance to the attic. Then the room I am in, despite not knowing the layout to the house. Then smash a hole in the ceiling. Then climb through said hole without getting stuck. Without me noticing. In under 5 minutes.

giantg2 6y ago
It is quite interesting. I'm failing to see how you could be missing my point. >>Still, are the interior doors more durable than the external doors? "Yes." I doubt this. They might be equal, but I doubt the exterior door would be weaker than the interior one. It's simply not logical. "Locate the entrance to the attic. Then the room I am in, despite not knowing the layout to the house. Then smash a hole in the ceiling. Then climb through said hole without getting stuck. Without me noticing. In under 5 minutes." Who said the entrance had to be located? If you can smash it down, why not up? (And who said smash? If their motive is to kill you, they may have brought tools, as I said before.) Who said you wouldn't need to notice? The point is that there are weaknesses in any house. Maybe houses in your area aren't drywall, but attackers can adapt their tools and tactics to address whatever is common in that area. It's really not as hard as people think.
- rgblambda 6y ago
  >> I doubt the exterior door would be weaker than the interior one. It's simply not logical. Maybe you're referring to the locks in which case you have a point. But exterior doors in my area tend to have big glass panels on them. >> If you can smash it down, why not up? Are they bringing a ladder as well? >>Who said you wouldn't need to notice? Because then you would know exactly where they are and you could escape more easily.
  - giantg2 6y ago
    "Maybe you're referring to the locks in which case you have a point. But exterior doors in my area tend to have big glass panels on them." Locks, sure. But those don't mean much if you have doors and door frames made of wood and they aren't either extremely heavy or reinforced. "Are they bringing a ladder as well?" A ladder or chair from your own home should work fine. You might be suprised at how often burglars use tools they find in the target house. "Because then you would know exactly where they are and you could escape more easily." Not if they're making entry to the attic right outside the room you're in so they can work on that and watch the door. You're really derailing the entire conversation with trivial what-ifs that aren't even related to the original point. None have offered any evidence refuting the point that if someone wants beat you to death, the police will be too slow to save you.
    - rgblambda 6y ago
      >> You're really derailing the entire conversation with trivial what-ifs that aren't even related to the original point. My original point was that (some) people teach their kids that when in trouble to rely on themselves and not on established social structures yet as adults they do the opposite (the sane thing to do). Look back over our conversation. You are the one making the what-ifs, while I am merely refuting your points as they come. >>Not if they're making entry to the attic right outside the room you're in so they can work on that and watch the door. Read that back to yourself. The intruder is both in the attic and at the door at the same time. >> You might be suprised at how often burglars use tools they find in the target house. So 5 minutes to locate where the occupant keeps the ladder, fetch the tools from their car (unless they were carrying them under their arm when breaking in) and/or break down a door before the target climbs out the window. Realistically, the occupant of the house is most likely dead within seconds. But if they have some kind of head start, the police advice is to find a secure location from which to call the police. I'll take that over the advice of someone whose seen Home Alone too many times.
      - giantg2 6y ago
        "But if they have some kind of head start, the police advice is to find a secure location from which to call the police. I'll take that over the advice of someone whose seen Home Alone too many times." LOL why ddo you assume that I'm the latter and not the former? You can live in your own reality. Clearly talking to you is pointless.

giantg2 6y ago

It is quite interesting. I'm failing to see how you could be missing my point. >>Still, are the interior doors more durable than the external doors? "Yes." I doubt this. They might be equal, but I doubt the exterior door would be weaker than the interior one. It's simply not logical. "Locate the entrance to the attic. Then the room I am in, despite not knowing the layout to the house. Then smash a hole in the ceiling. Then climb through said hole without getting stuck. Without me noticing. In under 5 minutes." Who said the entrance had to be located? If you can smash it down, why not up? (And who said smash? If their motive is to kill you, they may have brought tools, as I said before.) Who said you wouldn't need to notice? The point is that there are weaknesses in any house. Maybe houses in your area aren't drywall, but attackers can adapt their tools and tactics to address whatever is common in that area. It's really not as hard as people think.

rgblambda 6y ago
>> I doubt the exterior door would be weaker than the interior one. It's simply not logical. Maybe you're referring to the locks in which case you have a point. But exterior doors in my area tend to have big glass panels on them. >> If you can smash it down, why not up? Are they bringing a ladder as well? >>Who said you wouldn't need to notice? Because then you would know exactly where they are and you could escape more easily.
- giantg2 6y ago
  "Maybe you're referring to the locks in which case you have a point. But exterior doors in my area tend to have big glass panels on them." Locks, sure. But those don't mean much if you have doors and door frames made of wood and they aren't either extremely heavy or reinforced. "Are they bringing a ladder as well?" A ladder or chair from your own home should work fine. You might be suprised at how often burglars use tools they find in the target house. "Because then you would know exactly where they are and you could escape more easily." Not if they're making entry to the attic right outside the room you're in so they can work on that and watch the door. You're really derailing the entire conversation with trivial what-ifs that aren't even related to the original point. None have offered any evidence refuting the point that if someone wants beat you to death, the police will be too slow to save you.
  - rgblambda 6y ago
    >> You're really derailing the entire conversation with trivial what-ifs that aren't even related to the original point. My original point was that (some) people teach their kids that when in trouble to rely on themselves and not on established social structures yet as adults they do the opposite (the sane thing to do). Look back over our conversation. You are the one making the what-ifs, while I am merely refuting your points as they come. >>Not if they're making entry to the attic right outside the room you're in so they can work on that and watch the door. Read that back to yourself. The intruder is both in the attic and at the door at the same time. >> You might be suprised at how often burglars use tools they find in the target house. So 5 minutes to locate where the occupant keeps the ladder, fetch the tools from their car (unless they were carrying them under their arm when breaking in) and/or break down a door before the target climbs out the window. Realistically, the occupant of the house is most likely dead within seconds. But if they have some kind of head start, the police advice is to find a secure location from which to call the police. I'll take that over the advice of someone whose seen Home Alone too many times.
    - giantg2 6y ago
      "But if they have some kind of head start, the police advice is to find a secure location from which to call the police. I'll take that over the advice of someone whose seen Home Alone too many times." LOL why ddo you assume that I'm the latter and not the former? You can live in your own reality. Clearly talking to you is pointless.