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or just paying for youtube premium ...

by on_and_off 6y ago

grishka 6y ago
With uBO on desktop and YouTube Vanced on mobile, you get the exact same experience AND save $12/month.
- on_and_off 6y ago
  and you also don't contribute to the creators incomes. I can understand people vouching for using youtube premium or nebula instead, but not this.
  - grishka 6y ago
    I don't feel responsible for creators' incomes. It's their own choice and their own risks — no one's forcing them to quit their jobs and rely on YouTube for their only income. Or, simply put, "implicit contracts" aren't a thing for me. Anyway, many, if not most, youtubers have pateron now in case you want to contribute to their incomes without feeding surveillance capitalism.
  - jeffhuys 6y ago
    People who care about that support them using (for instance) Patreon, and that makes them a LOT more than youtube will, especially with the demonetisation bonanza as of late.
  - kaba0 6y ago
    Small creators who need income will get barely anything, while the ones the youtube algorithm prefers will get all. So yeah support them directly if you want but not google so I think vanced and the like is perfectly fine solution.
    - on_and_off 6y ago
      meh, still feel very hypocritical. You have found a way not to pay for something, good for you, but brandishing it as some kind of "perfectly fine solution" is just laughable.
      - kaba0 6y ago
        Youtube exploits creators’ work to make viewers at a cost of hosting said videos. It would be a pretty symbiotic thing but with the recent direction Google took I would rather not partake. Also, I barely use youtube. And I used to pay for for example google play music but as usual, google killed it.
dleslie 6y ago
I'd sooner stop using YouTube altogether. If paying for Google's services acted as an opt-out from their surveillance then I might consider it; but they'd never give users the opportunity to not have Google looking over their shoulder.
- on_and_off 6y ago
  stopping using youtube altogether I would actually understand
  - dleslie 6y ago
    I would if more non-commercial and non-monetized content were uploaded to Archive.org.

or just paying for youtube premium ...

grishka 6y ago

With uBO on desktop and YouTube Vanced on mobile, you get the exact same experience AND save $12/month.

on_and_off 6y ago
and you also don't contribute to the creators incomes. I can understand people vouching for using youtube premium or nebula instead, but not this.
- grishka 6y ago
  I don't feel responsible for creators' incomes. It's their own choice and their own risks — no one's forcing them to quit their jobs and rely on YouTube for their only income. Or, simply put, "implicit contracts" aren't a thing for me. Anyway, many, if not most, youtubers have pateron now in case you want to contribute to their incomes without feeding surveillance capitalism.
- jeffhuys 6y ago
  People who care about that support them using (for instance) Patreon, and that makes them a LOT more than youtube will, especially with the demonetisation bonanza as of late.
- kaba0 6y ago
  Small creators who need income will get barely anything, while the ones the youtube algorithm prefers will get all. So yeah support them directly if you want but not google so I think vanced and the like is perfectly fine solution.
  - on_and_off 6y ago
    meh, still feel very hypocritical. You have found a way not to pay for something, good for you, but brandishing it as some kind of "perfectly fine solution" is just laughable.
    - kaba0 6y ago
      Youtube exploits creators’ work to make viewers at a cost of hosting said videos. It would be a pretty symbiotic thing but with the recent direction Google took I would rather not partake. Also, I barely use youtube. And I used to pay for for example google play music but as usual, google killed it.

dleslie 6y ago

I'd sooner stop using YouTube altogether. If paying for Google's services acted as an opt-out from their surveillance then I might consider it; but they'd never give users the opportunity to not have Google looking over their shoulder.

on_and_off 6y ago
stopping using youtube altogether I would actually understand
- dleslie 6y ago
  I would if more non-commercial and non-monetized content were uploaded to Archive.org.