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YouTube is now a hostile space for creators of any political or social creed that create "edge" worthy content. Plain and simple. If you're a trans or LGBTQ c

by d33lio 6y ago

YouTube is now a hostile space for creators of any political or social creed that create "edge" worthy content. Plain and simple. If you're a trans or LGBTQ creator your content is not safe. If you produce "hacking" or firearms videos your content is not safe. Maybe some day the millennial generation will end the boomer era mantra of passing legislation federally or adopting policies that censoring content for the children TM.

thatguy0900 6y ago
The millennials will certainly not be the generation to end emotional censorship
- d33lio 6y ago
  I agree, it's curious how in recent times a foundational aspect of modern democrats is a belief that not being aware or able to see something really solves an issue or corrects a perceived ethical wrong. For instance, don't like what your opponents have to say? Just make it so their supporters have to go to their own platform. The insidious angle of this is how this kind of thinking starts to bleed into payments processing / CC companies.
Solvitieg 6y ago
But I think it's largely millennials who are pushing for more content moderation on the web. That's been my impression reading forums such as HN and Reddit.
slumdev 6y ago
> If you're a trans or LGBTQ creator your content is not safe. There was a time when a man's bedroom activity didn't enter into his professional life. I know the idea is difficult for millennials.
- reaperducer 6y ago
  Every other generation: "A person who happens to be gay." Millennials: "A gay person." For some reason, a lot of younger people are hung up on defining themselves by their sexuality, rather than defining themselves by the kind of person they are or the things they have done.
  - UncleMeat 6y ago
    Every other generation: a degenerate who deserves to be thrown in prison or die of aids. Let’s not pretend that the older generations have any moral high ground regarding non traditional sexualities.
    - reaperducer 6y ago
      No need to pretend. I hate to break it to you, but millennials weren't the first gay people. Gay people were accepted in society for a very long time before 2000. There wasn't suddenly some kind of awakening and the world changed. Yes, there was persecution, just as there is today. But nothing near what Hollywood likes to make you young people believe in other to sell tickets and streams.
      - UncleMeat 6y ago
        > But nothing near what Hollywood likes to make you young people believe in other to sell tickets and streams. Maybe I got my information instead from friends who are history faculty who study queer history? Or maybe it comes from family experience of a gay relative who was unable to see his dying lover during the AIDS crisis because his lover's parents were bigots and the law didn't recognize their relationship?
- valeness 6y ago
  This sounds like an incredibly bigoted, or at best ignorant, stance to take. I think it can be safe to assume that the GP meant that LGBTQ creators can be marginalized based on how they act, look, or simply identify. There is nothing about those 3 things that telegraphs "a man's bedroom activity".
  - slumdev 6y ago
    > LGBTQ creators can be marginalized based on how they act, look, or simply identify. There is nothing about those 3 things that telegraphs "a man's bedroom activity". When they "act, look, or simplify identify," in a way that easily identifies them as not cisgendered and/or not heterosexual, how are they not telegraphing information about their bedroom activities?
    - webmaven 6y ago
      > When they "act, look, or simplify identify," in a way that easily identifies them as not cisgendered and/or not heterosexual, how are they not telegraphing information about their bedroom activities? Because all they are really telegraphing is a preference for persons to collaborate with in said bedroom activities to be a specific gender, and even that is hardly certain. In any case there is actually very little in the way of "bedroom activities" that is exclusive to particular gender combinations. Most people are physically capable of performing most acts unassisted with most other people. And quite a few of the acts that are excluded can be accomplished with an appropriate adapter. All of which says almost nothing about anyone's odds of doing any particular thing with anyone else.
reaperducer 6y ago
Maybe some day the millennial generation will end the boomer era mantra of passing legislation federally or adopting policies that censoring content for the children TM. You mean the "millennial generation" that invented "cancel culture" to destroy the lives of people it doesn't agree with?
- rgblambda 6y ago
  Millennials sure didn't invent the Hollywood Blacklist in the 1940's. Cancel Culture has been a thing for a long time.
- _proofs 6y ago
  millenials invented cancel culture? so they invented things like segregation? lynchings? witch-hunts? "cancel cultute" is as old as time and oppression. it is woefully naive to believe a generation, whom you seem to begrudge, invented it.

by d33lio 6y ago

thatguy0900 6y ago

The millennials will certainly not be the generation to end emotional censorship

d33lio 6y ago
I agree, it's curious how in recent times a foundational aspect of modern democrats is a belief that not being aware or able to see something really solves an issue or corrects a perceived ethical wrong. For instance, don't like what your opponents have to say? Just make it so their supporters have to go to their own platform. The insidious angle of this is how this kind of thinking starts to bleed into payments processing / CC companies.

Solvitieg 6y ago

But I think it's largely millennials who are pushing for more content moderation on the web. That's been my impression reading forums such as HN and Reddit.

slumdev 6y ago

> If you're a trans or LGBTQ creator your content is not safe. There was a time when a man's bedroom activity didn't enter into his professional life. I know the idea is difficult for millennials.

reaperducer 6y ago
Every other generation: "A person who happens to be gay." Millennials: "A gay person." For some reason, a lot of younger people are hung up on defining themselves by their sexuality, rather than defining themselves by the kind of person they are or the things they have done.
- UncleMeat 6y ago
  Every other generation: a degenerate who deserves to be thrown in prison or die of aids. Let’s not pretend that the older generations have any moral high ground regarding non traditional sexualities.
  - reaperducer 6y ago
    No need to pretend. I hate to break it to you, but millennials weren't the first gay people. Gay people were accepted in society for a very long time before 2000. There wasn't suddenly some kind of awakening and the world changed. Yes, there was persecution, just as there is today. But nothing near what Hollywood likes to make you young people believe in other to sell tickets and streams.
    - UncleMeat 6y ago
      > But nothing near what Hollywood likes to make you young people believe in other to sell tickets and streams. Maybe I got my information instead from friends who are history faculty who study queer history? Or maybe it comes from family experience of a gay relative who was unable to see his dying lover during the AIDS crisis because his lover's parents were bigots and the law didn't recognize their relationship?
valeness 6y ago
This sounds like an incredibly bigoted, or at best ignorant, stance to take. I think it can be safe to assume that the GP meant that LGBTQ creators can be marginalized based on how they act, look, or simply identify. There is nothing about those 3 things that telegraphs "a man's bedroom activity".
- slumdev 6y ago
  > LGBTQ creators can be marginalized based on how they act, look, or simply identify. There is nothing about those 3 things that telegraphs "a man's bedroom activity". When they "act, look, or simplify identify," in a way that easily identifies them as not cisgendered and/or not heterosexual, how are they not telegraphing information about their bedroom activities?
  - webmaven 6y ago
    > When they "act, look, or simplify identify," in a way that easily identifies them as not cisgendered and/or not heterosexual, how are they not telegraphing information about their bedroom activities? Because all they are really telegraphing is a preference for persons to collaborate with in said bedroom activities to be a specific gender, and even that is hardly certain. In any case there is actually very little in the way of "bedroom activities" that is exclusive to particular gender combinations. Most people are physically capable of performing most acts unassisted with most other people. And quite a few of the acts that are excluded can be accomplished with an appropriate adapter. All of which says almost nothing about anyone's odds of doing any particular thing with anyone else.

reaperducer 6y ago

Maybe some day the millennial generation will end the boomer era mantra of passing legislation federally or adopting policies that censoring content for the children TM. You mean the "millennial generation" that invented "cancel culture" to destroy the lives of people it doesn't agree with?

rgblambda 6y ago
Millennials sure didn't invent the Hollywood Blacklist in the 1940's. Cancel Culture has been a thing for a long time.
_proofs 6y ago
millenials invented cancel culture? so they invented things like segregation? lynchings? witch-hunts? "cancel cultute" is as old as time and oppression. it is woefully naive to believe a generation, whom you seem to begrudge, invented it.