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please list smartphones i can buy that have no suppliers with any history of human rights issues thank you

by Talyen42 6y ago

holstvoogd 6y ago
Maybe fairphone?
wizzwizz4 6y ago
https://www.fairphone.com/ https://www.fairphone.com/ https://www.pine64.org/ https://www.pine64.org/, to my knowledge.
- ratww 6y ago
  Interesting, I wasn't aware of Fairphone. Here's their supplier list btw, in case anyone wants to check out: https://www.fairphone.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/016_005_FP3_List_Suppliers_and_Smelters_Web_190930.pdf https://www.fairphone.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/016_005... Still seems to be mostly China (48 out of 65), but the fact they make it public is highly commendable.
- CubsFan1060 6y ago
  Other comment has a list of suppliers. https://www.fairphone.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/016_005_FP3_List_Suppliers_and_Smelters_Web_190930.pdf https://www.fairphone.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/016_005... One of which is "O-Film" Apple dropped them because they used forced labor: https://9to5mac.com/2020/12/03/iphone-camera-supplier-o-film/ https://9to5mac.com/2020/12/03/iphone-camera-supplier-o-film... So, it's probably reasonable to suspect that FairPhone does (or did) use suppliers that used forced labor. I only checked the one because I had remembered hearing it somewhere.
saladgnu054 6y ago
Why are you moving the goalposts? What does the history matter, the list of countries currently with millions of people in concentration camps is quite short.
- mvanbaak 6y ago
  As far as I can see they are not moving the goalpost. They simply asked to what mobile phone brand they can go to make things better. Yes, the answer is: not one.
  - daenz 6y ago
    The goal post moving was the phrasing "with any history of human rights issues" (emphasis mine). The goal was: let's not do business with places who are currently abusing human rights like this. The goal post was then moved to: let's not do business with places with any history of human rights issues.
- Pulcinella 6y ago
  You need to raise your standards. Concentration camps are inherently evil, it does not matter how many people are in them. A concentration camp isn’t acceptable just because it only has 999,999 people in it.

please list smartphones i can buy that have no suppliers with any history of human rights issues thank you

holstvoogd 6y ago

Maybe fairphone?

wizzwizz4 6y ago

https://www.fairphone.com/ https://www.fairphone.com/ https://www.pine64.org/ https://www.pine64.org/, to my knowledge.

ratww 6y ago
Interesting, I wasn't aware of Fairphone. Here's their supplier list btw, in case anyone wants to check out: https://www.fairphone.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/016_005_FP3_List_Suppliers_and_Smelters_Web_190930.pdf https://www.fairphone.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/016_005... Still seems to be mostly China (48 out of 65), but the fact they make it public is highly commendable.
CubsFan1060 6y ago
Other comment has a list of suppliers. https://www.fairphone.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/016_005_FP3_List_Suppliers_and_Smelters_Web_190930.pdf https://www.fairphone.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/016_005... One of which is "O-Film" Apple dropped them because they used forced labor: https://9to5mac.com/2020/12/03/iphone-camera-supplier-o-film/ https://9to5mac.com/2020/12/03/iphone-camera-supplier-o-film... So, it's probably reasonable to suspect that FairPhone does (or did) use suppliers that used forced labor. I only checked the one because I had remembered hearing it somewhere.

saladgnu054 6y ago

Why are you moving the goalposts? What does the history matter, the list of countries currently with millions of people in concentration camps is quite short.

mvanbaak 6y ago
As far as I can see they are not moving the goalpost. They simply asked to what mobile phone brand they can go to make things better. Yes, the answer is: not one.
- daenz 6y ago
  The goal post moving was the phrasing "with any history of human rights issues" (emphasis mine). The goal was: let's not do business with places who are currently abusing human rights like this. The goal post was then moved to: let's not do business with places with any history of human rights issues.
Pulcinella 6y ago
You need to raise your standards. Concentration camps are inherently evil, it does not matter how many people are in them. A concentration camp isn’t acceptable just because it only has 999,999 people in it.