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The cat is out of the bag. Without public policy declaring no more tipping, any business that moves away from it to higher sticker prices will be immediately p
by mike_h 6y ago
The cat is out of the bag. Without public policy declaring no more tipping, any business that moves away from it to higher sticker prices will be immediately punished by the market.
What Grubhub is doing here is a calculated, likely-temporary cash grab that they know for a fact will come at the expense of the drivers. By the time enough outrage builds that they have to change the UX again, they’ll be that much closer to balancing their own books.
- pmiller2 6y agoThat is absolutely not true. I've eaten at and will continue to return to several restaurants that pay their workers (all of them, not just the servers) a fair wage, where tipping is not at all encouraged. I imagine my server might not turn it down if slipped them a $5 anyway, but the business model of these places is made to run without tips.
- dv_dt 6y agoI wish there were more information available there. I've looked for trying to buy from restaurants that have fair wages, but there's not a lot of info. The best I've come across is the very sparsely populated ROC United app (sparse at least in my region). https://rocunited.org/ https://rocunited.org/ https://apps.apple.com/us/app/roc-national-diners-guide/id577946103 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/roc-national-diners-guide/id57... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=app.rocunited.dinersguide&hl=en_US&gl=US https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=app.rocunited....
- amscanne 6y agoSome of my favorite restaurants have a "tipping not allowed" policy, and servers draw a hard line. I like this policy a lot, and don't mind paying extra. Unfortunately, the way many restaurants choose to manifest this is via a "mandatory 18% service charge" that is not reflected in the prices themselves. I hate this. I wish restaurants would just publish a menu that has the "all-in" price, with the "service charge" and taxes included. Maybe the market will reject this, but I suspect that this fear is not fully founded.
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- rahimnathwani 6y agoThe only place I know that does this is Saigon Sandwich, on Larkin Street, just a short walk from San Francisco Public Library. (It's takeout only.) Their banh mi sandwiches are yummy, and the price you see is the price you pay.
- mike_h 6y agoCan you give some examples? The ones that got any press/mindshare seem to be failing: https://www.eater.com/21398973/restaurant-no-tipping-movement-living-wage-future https://www.eater.com/21398973/restaurant-no-tipping-movemen...