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> I believe this looks like a standard copy-and-paste of old standards, and with little understanding of the technical details. Exactly. I’ve seen people who w
by codetrotter 6y ago
> I believe this looks like a standard copy-and-paste of old standards, and with little understanding of the technical details.
Exactly. I’ve seen people who work like that. Copy-paste a bunch of stuff that they don’t understand and betting that the people that read it don’t understand or don’t care either. And worse yet it turns out that often they are right. No one cares anyway. So the people that do this get away with it. And the people that do care are spending their time writing stuff that in the end most other people that don’t care aren’t even going to give more than a cursory glance anyways.
- spzb 6y agoThat describes half the web developers I've worked with too.
- atwebb 6y agoIsn't that a little true of every abstraction? yum is shorthand for "I trust you, please give me something"
- dylan604 6y agoIsn't that a little bit different though? yum/apt-get/etc are designed to be used this way while legislation isn't.
- dylan604 6y agoFor a direct example, take a block of code copied from StackOverflow and then search for it on GitHub.
- rglover 6y agoDoes anybody know if there's an "official" term for this sort of behavior beyond laziness or apathy?
- insert_coin 6y agopolitics
- cube00 6y agoExpedited legislation
- contravariant 6y agoPretty sure this is the only way to even get a 1246 page long 'agreement', because that amount of text is well beyond what any reasonable person could carefully read and agree to.
- Mauricebranagh 6y agoDoesn't mean that the "Sherpas" team, should not have picked that up earlier on. Sherpas in this sense is the actual career diplomats who do the hard work - but I suspect they did not have subject matter experts to pick this up.
- contravariant 6y agoOh yeah this definitely should have been picked up, all I'm saying is that I'm not surprised it wasn't. The sheer size makes it nigh impossible for anyone to fully understand what it says, so to the extent that there is any democratic control it's essentially based on hearsay.
- drocer88 6y agoLawmakers need to do their job. They need to read and vet this stuff, not go on junkets and play golf with lobbyists.
- yodelshady 6y agoLobbyists are the ones who are reading and vetting it. Lawmakers are not and can never be experts in your preferred subject, so they talk to people who are - either by retaining them as bureaucrats, or by asking lobby groups as-needed. I've not seen armies of programmers clamour for the former, so honestly, what on Earth do you want?
- rbanffy 6y ago> I've not seen armies of programmers clamour for the former You can count me out of that - I'm from governments that have the size they need to properly function and I'm happy to pay taxes to fund that. I'd be happier if people richer than me paid their fair share but, unfortunately, due to budget cuts, a lot of tax legislation was written by their lobbyists instead of actual experts and, therefore, they don't.
- johannes1234321 6y agoWell, they goal quite certainly was "keep existing process and legal framework" maybe they have noted that they have to rework the corresponding EU agreement, but the Brexit agreement isn't the place to renegotiate EU-internal things.