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This looks like a cool project. Here's a bit of feedback / thoughts I'm having related to a similar project, Archivy [0]. The problem I have with these type of

This looks like a cool project. Here's a bit of feedback / thoughts I'm having related to a similar project, Archivy [0]. The problem I have with these type of solutions is basically the time it takes to just quickly bookmark. Browsers bookmarks are built-in, and do this pretty well - it's just one button next to the search bar. Solutions like these are a bit more limited as they aren't embedded into your browser UI, so you have to open a new website and paste the link in. This mere effort adds a layer of complexity which can kind of turn the user off to bookmarking. I wonder how this issue can be solved, in my project and yours... Maybe browser extensions can provide a more native experience with less "content to bookmark" time spent. Sync is another way to kind of counteract this -> people use normal browser bookmarks or whatever they prefer - and then there are options to sync them to your software for better organization / whatever your functionality is. However, hand-coding all of these integrations is difficult and that's why building a framework of plugins [1] so users can work and distribute these integrations themselves, is in my opinion, essential. [0]: https://archivy.github.io https://archivy.github.io [1]: https://archivy.github.io/plugins https://archivy.github.io/plugins

mekster 6y ago
Make it PWA and give it a sharing capability. Check how Unmark does it. https://github.com/cdevroe/unmark https://github.com/cdevroe/unmark
Kovah 6y ago
Thank you so much for the input! Indeed, the process of bookmarking can be improved a lot. Browser extensions could be a proper solution, but I wanted to publish the app without having to build the extensions for various browsers. That's why there is a bookmarklet. Will take a look into the plugins, maybe they can help making this easier.
- gravitas 6y ago
  +1 to the Bookmarklet, it's what I use now for another service and it's simple and works (and can be hotkeyed in most browsers); I suspect the GP did not find the docs with the bookmarklet option as it's on the User Settings page, not the Links page: https://www.linkace.org/docs/v1/configuration/user-settings/ https://www.linkace.org/docs/v1/configuration/user-settings/
- FalconSensei 6y ago
  bookmarklets are great, specially for a first version. I actually would usually prefer a bookmarklet if it wasn't for a lack of keyboard shortcut. I use raindrop.io and notion, and before seeing the shortcuts, I didn't use them much. It was also kind of the reason why all my previous tentatives to use a cloud bookmark service didn't go well. The second reason is how accessible it is to click on a bookmark. On the browser you have the bookmarks bar, so at least for your top bookmarks, there's no way to beat it. But for everything else, as long as I can setup the page as my new tab page - or the extension having a shortcut to open the full page - it's also great
yawnxyz 6y ago
I made a thing like this for myself for fun, and I created a bookmarklet and hooked it up to Twilio so I can text URLs to automatically add links. Not sharing my project on here since it doesn't have authentication haha.
bachmeier 6y ago
> Solutions like these are a bit more limited as they aren't embedded into your browser UI, so you have to open a new website and paste the link in. This mere effort adds a layer of complexity which can kind of turn the user off to bookmarking. That assumes the main goal is quantity of bookmarks. That you want to lower the cost of bookmarking as close to zero as possible. As someone that has been using bookmarks in the browser since the very early days of the WWW, I can't endorse that system for most bookmarks. The more important thing is to make it easy to add metadata, store the links, and then query/browse the information. A low-resistance system is simply opening the link in a new tab, and then when you decide it's time to clean up your tabs, you store them inside a system that holds the metadata necessary to make use of those links in the future. Everything is secondary to getting the metadata right.
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daitangio 6y ago
I developed a solution which worked pretty well and monitored my clipoard. When I Ctrl-X the url from the browser and then clicked on "new bookmark" link on my app, it magically appear. You can also develop a small bookmarklet to do the same trick. It was called http://daitanmarks.sourceforge.net/ http://daitanmarks.sourceforge.net/
- m463 6y ago
  I do something similar. I have a small script on my mac that loops running pbpaste. If the result changes and contains a youtube URL it will do a youtube-dl to a directory Later I just view that directory and press space bar on the interesting videos to view them.
unicornporn 6y ago
Awesome! https://archivebox.io/ https://archivebox.io/ should be mentioned in this context too.
dspillett 6y ago
> The problem I have with these type of solutions is basically the time it takes to just quickly bookmark. This is a significant issue. I've been thinking of making my own bookmark storage/sorting thing as others didn't quite match my exact needs/preferences. But a key problem that I have, which I don't think I'm unique in, is that I'm often too lazy to even bookmark - I just open things in new tabs and leave them there until I get around to going back or forget the relevance and close a pile of windows/tabs to save memory...
- loulouxiv 6y ago
  You could maybe try the OneTab firefox extension
g_p 6y ago
Wallabag [0] may do what you require, with regard to having a browser extension to reduce friction when saving something. There's a bit of friction in getting the browser extension set up, but once you do so, it's there as a status bar button - click to save. Simple! On mobile, it becomes a "share destination" for iOS or Android. [0] https://github.com/wallabag https://github.com/wallabag
- fock 6y ago
  normally you could also just create a bookmarklet and create a window for management within the page (all pages, where you can do bookmarks sensibly should support that)
jchook 6y ago
> The problem I have with these type of solutions is basically the time it takes to just quickly bookmark. You can write a browser extension to do this relatively easily. Mine is maybe ~200 lines of ES6 with login, bookmark-on-click, and ability to update with description + tags after. Both Pocket and Pinboard have similar solutions. For iOS/Android you can write a share extension.
codazoda 6y ago
I might also try a Bookmarklet that uses JS to send the page info over. Edit: Looks like this is already included in ops solution. I like bookmarklets because they are nice and simple, maintenance is much easier than a bunch of extensions, and extensions don't work in some browsers (i.e. mobile).
darekkay 6y ago
My solution is to use browser bookmarks as my inbox and my own yaml-based tool for archiving links only. For me, only a few links are actually worth keeping long-term.

mekster 6y ago

Make it PWA and give it a sharing capability. Check how Unmark does it. https://github.com/cdevroe/unmark https://github.com/cdevroe/unmark

Kovah 6y ago

Thank you so much for the input! Indeed, the process of bookmarking can be improved a lot. Browser extensions could be a proper solution, but I wanted to publish the app without having to build the extensions for various browsers. That's why there is a bookmarklet. Will take a look into the plugins, maybe they can help making this easier.

gravitas 6y ago
+1 to the Bookmarklet, it's what I use now for another service and it's simple and works (and can be hotkeyed in most browsers); I suspect the GP did not find the docs with the bookmarklet option as it's on the User Settings page, not the Links page: https://www.linkace.org/docs/v1/configuration/user-settings/ https://www.linkace.org/docs/v1/configuration/user-settings/
FalconSensei 6y ago
bookmarklets are great, specially for a first version. I actually would usually prefer a bookmarklet if it wasn't for a lack of keyboard shortcut. I use raindrop.io and notion, and before seeing the shortcuts, I didn't use them much. It was also kind of the reason why all my previous tentatives to use a cloud bookmark service didn't go well. The second reason is how accessible it is to click on a bookmark. On the browser you have the bookmarks bar, so at least for your top bookmarks, there's no way to beat it. But for everything else, as long as I can setup the page as my new tab page - or the extension having a shortcut to open the full page - it's also great

yawnxyz 6y ago

I made a thing like this for myself for fun, and I created a bookmarklet and hooked it up to Twilio so I can text URLs to automatically add links. Not sharing my project on here since it doesn't have authentication haha.

bachmeier 6y ago

> Solutions like these are a bit more limited as they aren't embedded into your browser UI, so you have to open a new website and paste the link in. This mere effort adds a layer of complexity which can kind of turn the user off to bookmarking. That assumes the main goal is quantity of bookmarks. That you want to lower the cost of bookmarking as close to zero as possible. As someone that has been using bookmarks in the browser since the very early days of the WWW, I can't endorse that system for most bookmarks. The more important thing is to make it easy to add metadata, store the links, and then query/browse the information. A low-resistance system is simply opening the link in a new tab, and then when you decide it's time to clean up your tabs, you store them inside a system that holds the metadata necessary to make use of those links in the future. Everything is secondary to getting the metadata right.

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daitangio 6y ago

I developed a solution which worked pretty well and monitored my clipoard. When I Ctrl-X the url from the browser and then clicked on "new bookmark" link on my app, it magically appear. You can also develop a small bookmarklet to do the same trick. It was called http://daitanmarks.sourceforge.net/ http://daitanmarks.sourceforge.net/

m463 6y ago
I do something similar. I have a small script on my mac that loops running pbpaste. If the result changes and contains a youtube URL it will do a youtube-dl to a directory Later I just view that directory and press space bar on the interesting videos to view them.

unicornporn 6y ago

Awesome! https://archivebox.io/ https://archivebox.io/ should be mentioned in this context too.

dspillett 6y ago

> The problem I have with these type of solutions is basically the time it takes to just quickly bookmark. This is a significant issue. I've been thinking of making my own bookmark storage/sorting thing as others didn't quite match my exact needs/preferences. But a key problem that I have, which I don't think I'm unique in, is that I'm often too lazy to even bookmark - I just open things in new tabs and leave them there until I get around to going back or forget the relevance and close a pile of windows/tabs to save memory...

loulouxiv 6y ago
You could maybe try the OneTab firefox extension

g_p 6y ago

Wallabag [0] may do what you require, with regard to having a browser extension to reduce friction when saving something. There's a bit of friction in getting the browser extension set up, but once you do so, it's there as a status bar button - click to save. Simple! On mobile, it becomes a "share destination" for iOS or Android. [0] https://github.com/wallabag https://github.com/wallabag

fock 6y ago
normally you could also just create a bookmarklet and create a window for management within the page (all pages, where you can do bookmarks sensibly should support that)

jchook 6y ago

> The problem I have with these type of solutions is basically the time it takes to just quickly bookmark. You can write a browser extension to do this relatively easily. Mine is maybe ~200 lines of ES6 with login, bookmark-on-click, and ability to update with description + tags after. Both Pocket and Pinboard have similar solutions. For iOS/Android you can write a share extension.

codazoda 6y ago

I might also try a Bookmarklet that uses JS to send the page info over. Edit: Looks like this is already included in ops solution. I like bookmarklets because they are nice and simple, maintenance is much easier than a bunch of extensions, and extensions don't work in some browsers (i.e. mobile).

darekkay 6y ago

My solution is to use browser bookmarks as my inbox and my own yaml-based tool for archiving links only. For me, only a few links are actually worth keeping long-term.