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I would highly recommend reading the book A Fire Upon the Deep, if this sort of thought interests you. Also gets covered in Star Trek, Star Gate, Battlestar Ga

• emteycz 6y ago
  Eh, no, please, let's not take these space operas as anything close to reality.
  • theadversary 6y ago
    Oh this is interesting, could you explain more about it?
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    • emteycz 6y ago
      It has absolutely nothing to do with reality, the only difference from Harry Potter is that they don't call it magic but science (while the concepts are just as magical). I like these shows but let's not pretend it can be used to think about reality. It can't be even used for moral dilemmas because it's not internally consistent, the behaviour often doesn't make any sense and the implications of the technologies or events are not thought through. The new Star Trek shows (Picard and Discovery) that are coincidentally focusing on dangers of AI are truly bad from this point of view, any AI-focused philosopher must be pulling their hair out. Before we could use it for this purpose at least the basic behaviour of people should make sense and their personality shouldn't change 3 times before an episode ends, and way fewer things should be handwaved away, and there shouldn't be literal magic (viz e.g. the Su'Kal episode).
      • theadversary 6y ago
        Looking back over your comments lately it seems you're using them as some sort of outlet, taking out your own feelings and angers on others. It seems you're going through a really tough time. I hope you have a better 2021 and in future treat people better.
        • emteycz 6y ago
          Yes, I talk about stuff that bothers me. I feel rather well (thankfully I'm one of those who have options - I feel bad for poorer people though), but there isn't much to say about that here, this forum's audience doesn't like people posting things like "I like that" or "Thank you" (I tried, got downvoted to hell). I treat people just alright, don't worry about that - different viewpoint is not treating people badly. I don't see how that's relevant to Star Trek and Star Wars not being a useful model of reality. As I said, I like these TV shows (I love Star Trek! Just rewatching DS9...), but it's entertainment and nothing more. These TV shows made people believe computers will never be creative, and look what happened - computers are more creative than logical. Check out some real life AI-focused philosophers, e.g. I like this institution: https://www.cevast.org/ https://www.cevast.org/.
          • theadversary 6y ago
            Good to hear you say you're feeling rather well. If you're not, or if someone around you isn't and that's putting pressure on you, I really encourage you to try some therapeutic help. Have a good 2021
• theadversary 6y ago
  Yes thank you for that suggestion!!