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Seattle briefly allowed microapartments, before single-family home owners fought back and got them killed again. You can see one here: https://seattle.craigslis

Seattle briefly allowed microapartments, before single-family home owners fought back and got them killed again. You can see one here: https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/apa/d/seattle-apodment-suite-in-heart-of/7253688966.html https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/apa/d/seattle-apodment-su... $900/mo for 198 square feet. Kitchen sink, but no stove/oven. You do get your own bathroom, at least. Feeling a little agoraphobic with the above floor plan? Don't like those vast sweeps of empty space? No problem, try $875/mo for 147 square feet: https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/apa/d/seattle-apodment-suite-in-heart-of/7253669105.html https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/apa/d/seattle-apodment-su... Carefully examine the bathroom photos. No sink! You wash your hands in the kitchenette. Easy enough, when it's three steps away. (After all, where would you put a bathroom sink? The entire apartment is the size of an RV.) One upside: if the landlord gets on your nerves, it would be real, real easy to move out. A one-backpack apartment.

emteycz 6y ago
Oh, that looks like the average apartment used by a couple/single people here in Europe. Same price too.
- guenthert 6y ago
  Wut? I always wonder what people mean when they say 'in Europe', as if there weren't vast cultural and economic differences. Remember e.g. Switzerland and Albania are both in (continental) Europe. A couple of years ago I inquired about the prize in a room in a hotel in San Francisco I happened to walk up to -- the front desk person cautioned that it offered 'european style' shared bathrooms. plonk -- I never encountered a hotel in Europe with shared bathrooms, but I've never been to Albania either.
  - emteycz 6y ago
    I remember the geography of my home continent very well, I travel around here a lot. The hotels with shared bathrooms are very common even in Switzerland, and everywhere else in Europe. The small apartments are more common the richer the country. Larger apartments are more common in the poorer countries. You can find the small ones in every capital city though.
    - guenthert 6y ago
      > The hotels with shared bathrooms are very common even in Switzerland, and everywhere else in Europe. Truly curious. Could you provide a link to one?
      - emteycz 6y ago
        https://www.hostelswiss.ch/ https://www.hostelswiss.ch/
        labawi 6y ago
        Note that those are called hostels. I don't remember seeing shared bathrooms in hotels.
        emteycz 6y ago
        This change of naming happened during the past two decades. You're technically correct, though. Note that you can get a private room in the hostel I linked, that's not universal - and I feel that moves it towards hotel.
        guenthert 6y ago
        I sense a confusion of the terms hotel and hostel. That 's' separates worlds. As a young lad (on a tight budget) I stayed in youth hostels in Europe and USA as well. Those (at that time) not only were equipped with shared bathrooms, but also commonly with bunk beds in dormitories (separated by gender -- yeah, such were the times) and usually expected you to take on chores. I enjoyed my stay as it allowed me to go to places I couldn't otherwise afford and meet like-minded young travelers, but it would be impossible to mistake those places for hotels.
        emteycz 6y ago
        Well the line is pretty blurred. But you're right that what used to be called three-star hotels is now primarily a thing of the east, while the west calls them hostels.

emteycz 6y ago

Oh, that looks like the average apartment used by a couple/single people here in Europe. Same price too.

guenthert 6y ago
Wut? I always wonder what people mean when they say 'in Europe', as if there weren't vast cultural and economic differences. Remember e.g. Switzerland and Albania are both in (continental) Europe. A couple of years ago I inquired about the prize in a room in a hotel in San Francisco I happened to walk up to -- the front desk person cautioned that it offered 'european style' shared bathrooms. plonk -- I never encountered a hotel in Europe with shared bathrooms, but I've never been to Albania either.
- emteycz 6y ago
  I remember the geography of my home continent very well, I travel around here a lot. The hotels with shared bathrooms are very common even in Switzerland, and everywhere else in Europe. The small apartments are more common the richer the country. Larger apartments are more common in the poorer countries. You can find the small ones in every capital city though.
  - guenthert 6y ago
    > The hotels with shared bathrooms are very common even in Switzerland, and everywhere else in Europe. Truly curious. Could you provide a link to one?
    - emteycz 6y ago
      https://www.hostelswiss.ch/ https://www.hostelswiss.ch/
      - labawi 6y ago
        Note that those are called hostels. I don't remember seeing shared bathrooms in hotels.
        emteycz 6y ago
        This change of naming happened during the past two decades. You're technically correct, though. Note that you can get a private room in the hostel I linked, that's not universal - and I feel that moves it towards hotel.
      - guenthert 6y ago
        I sense a confusion of the terms hotel and hostel. That 's' separates worlds. As a young lad (on a tight budget) I stayed in youth hostels in Europe and USA as well. Those (at that time) not only were equipped with shared bathrooms, but also commonly with bunk beds in dormitories (separated by gender -- yeah, such were the times) and usually expected you to take on chores. I enjoyed my stay as it allowed me to go to places I couldn't otherwise afford and meet like-minded young travelers, but it would be impossible to mistake those places for hotels.
        emteycz 6y ago
        Well the line is pretty blurred. But you're right that what used to be called three-star hotels is now primarily a thing of the east, while the west calls them hostels.