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An alternative to the web. Designed for the user, not for developers, or cooperations. All these initiatives like SOLID, ad blockers, regulation & censorshi

by max_ 6y ago

An alternative to the web. Designed for the user, not for developers, or cooperations. All these initiatives like SOLID, ad blockers, regulation & censorship should not be needed in this new alternative. Power was given to devs and we ended up with web obesity. Power was given to cooperations & we ended up with subversion. Then when people asked regulators to fix it we ended up with popups. The web is currently rotten beyond repair. We need an alternative

zzo38computer 6y ago
I think that you are correct. There are alternatives though, but they don't like to use it much. Also would be alternative that the web browser could be designed better; interpret them differently and more efficiently for the user to have more control and don't waste too much energy. For different applications, you can have: - NNTP - Gopher - IRC - Telnet and SSH - etc. (I have a NNTP server set up. If you want to set up discussion forums, this is a good idea, I think. I also have Gopher and QOTD (TCP only, no UDP) services set up too.) There can also be the better uses of HTTP too (it is capable of some things but that they don't commonly use properly), and the uses of different file formats (you do not have to be limited to only HTML; you can also have plain text format, httpdirlist format, etc).
- selfhoster11 6y ago
  I already replied to the parent, but Gemini is a modern protocol that significantly improves conceptually upon Gopher. It's lighter than HTTP/HTML and with just enough features to serve the small web and not much more. It's worth checking out if you haven't already.
  - zzo38computer 6y ago
    Yes, I believe you, although my list is not meant to be exhaustive.
selfhoster11 6y ago
Gemini protocol aims to address some of these problems by doing away with the web entirely. It's like a modernised Gopher with improvements that benefit from 21st century hindsight.

by max_ 6y ago

zzo38computer 6y ago

I think that you are correct. There are alternatives though, but they don't like to use it much. Also would be alternative that the web browser could be designed better; interpret them differently and more efficiently for the user to have more control and don't waste too much energy. For different applications, you can have: - NNTP - Gopher - IRC - Telnet and SSH - etc. (I have a NNTP server set up. If you want to set up discussion forums, this is a good idea, I think. I also have Gopher and QOTD (TCP only, no UDP) services set up too.) There can also be the better uses of HTTP too (it is capable of some things but that they don't commonly use properly), and the uses of different file formats (you do not have to be limited to only HTML; you can also have plain text format, httpdirlist format, etc).

selfhoster11 6y ago
I already replied to the parent, but Gemini is a modern protocol that significantly improves conceptually upon Gopher. It's lighter than HTTP/HTML and with just enough features to serve the small web and not much more. It's worth checking out if you haven't already.
- zzo38computer 6y ago
  Yes, I believe you, although my list is not meant to be exhaustive.

selfhoster11 6y ago

Gemini protocol aims to address some of these problems by doing away with the web entirely. It's like a modernised Gopher with improvements that benefit from 21st century hindsight.