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As I stated in my previous comment, most major cities (i.e. national or global hubs) are probably implausible due to increased demand. But there are literally

As I stated in my previous comment, most major cities (i.e. national or global hubs) are probably implausible due to increased demand. But there are literally hundreds of mid-sized cities and thousands of smaller cities where it's as simple as described. Of course, you know this, and you know that's what I was saying, so I'm going to assume you're not really debating in good faith (or are seriously misreading what I'm saying). Edit: I had a peek at your comment history and saw this pattern repeated with other people. I regret getting involved in this thread.

pmiller2 6y ago
Okay then. Let's look at a 1930s salary, and tell me how you afford all that stuff: > From 1935 to 1936 the median family income was $1,160. An annual wage of $1,000 or more placed a family in the middle-income range. The middle-income family did not have a surplus of income but did have a fairly comfortable standard of living. [0] Show me how I can pay a mortgage, eat, go to the doctor (still ignoring this one, I see), have a little entertainment every once in a while, etc. Actually, I'll make it easier on you. From the very same source: > Average Family Budget, 1935 > Income Amount, $ > Average annual income $1,348 > Expenses > Food and alcoholic beverages 472 > Housing, utilities, furnishings, etc. 456 > Clothing 136 > Automobile purchase and maintenance 73 > Medical care 53 > Recreation, reading, tobacco 72 > Taxes 5 > Miscellaneous expenses 5 > Total Expenses $1,272 Let's go ahead and inflate this typical 1935 family budget to today and see how we do. Note, these numbers are per year. It's easy, right? Let's simplify it a bit and just say it's a household of one, but you only get to live on ~1/3 of a median US individual income, currently around $43K. I'll give you $15K to work with. Hint: do medical care and housing first. Sorry, not my fault you regret biting off more than you can chew. You knew you couldn't do what you were claiming from the beginning. --- [0]: https://www.encyclopedia.com/education/news-and-education-magazines/everyday-life-1929-1941 https://www.encyclopedia.com/education/news-and-education-ma...
- gamegoblin 6y ago
  I regret getting involved in the thread, not because I "bit off more than I can chew", but because having conversations where one person doesn't read what one says is kind of pointless. For instance, with regard to medical care, in my very first comment, I clearly stated: "Some costs in the US, medical being the primary example, are more expensive than they should be due to financial and political scheming." That said, if your income is < $15K/yr, you qualify for Medicaid. Insulin costs < $500/yr on Medicaid. I've already shown you in a previous comment how it's possible to live so cheaply in the modern day, because I and millions of other Americans literally have done it.
  - pmiller2 6y ago
    I've been there, too. Let me tell you, at $15K, you had better hope you're young and healthy. If not, you're in for a world of financial hurt. It's kind of interesting that we have to rely on a social program that didn't exist until 1965 to live like the median 1935 person, though. Hm.

pmiller2 6y ago

Okay then. Let's look at a 1930s salary, and tell me how you afford all that stuff: > From 1935 to 1936 the median family income was $1,160. An annual wage of $1,000 or more placed a family in the middle-income range. The middle-income family did not have a surplus of income but did have a fairly comfortable standard of living. [0] Show me how I can pay a mortgage, eat, go to the doctor (still ignoring this one, I see), have a little entertainment every once in a while, etc. Actually, I'll make it easier on you. From the very same source: > Average Family Budget, 1935 > Income Amount, $ > Average annual income $1,348 > Expenses > Food and alcoholic beverages 472 > Housing, utilities, furnishings, etc. 456 > Clothing 136 > Automobile purchase and maintenance 73 > Medical care 53 > Recreation, reading, tobacco 72 > Taxes 5 > Miscellaneous expenses 5 > Total Expenses $1,272 Let's go ahead and inflate this typical 1935 family budget to today and see how we do. Note, these numbers are per year. It's easy, right? Let's simplify it a bit and just say it's a household of one, but you only get to live on ~1/3 of a median US individual income, currently around $43K. I'll give you $15K to work with. Hint: do medical care and housing first. Sorry, not my fault you regret biting off more than you can chew. You knew you couldn't do what you were claiming from the beginning. --- [0]: https://www.encyclopedia.com/education/news-and-education-magazines/everyday-life-1929-1941 https://www.encyclopedia.com/education/news-and-education-ma...

gamegoblin 6y ago
I regret getting involved in the thread, not because I "bit off more than I can chew", but because having conversations where one person doesn't read what one says is kind of pointless. For instance, with regard to medical care, in my very first comment, I clearly stated: "Some costs in the US, medical being the primary example, are more expensive than they should be due to financial and political scheming." That said, if your income is < $15K/yr, you qualify for Medicaid. Insulin costs < $500/yr on Medicaid. I've already shown you in a previous comment how it's possible to live so cheaply in the modern day, because I and millions of other Americans literally have done it.
- pmiller2 6y ago
  I've been there, too. Let me tell you, at $15K, you had better hope you're young and healthy. If not, you're in for a world of financial hurt. It's kind of interesting that we have to rely on a social program that didn't exist until 1965 to live like the median 1935 person, though. Hm.