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I think they exist, but they don't appeal to younger people. All of the groups you mention that I'm familiar with I associate with people's grandfathers, or at
by wyattpeak 6y ago
I think they exist, but they don't appeal to younger people. All of the groups you mention that I'm familiar with I associate with people's grandfathers, or at youngest their slightly odd uncles. Also only with men, although maybe that's a bit of selection bias on the ones I know.
If something exists but people aren't using it, it isn't the right solution. It might be hard to say why it isn't, it could even just be a marketing problem, but nevertheless the problem isn't solved by its existence.
- legerdemain 6y agoThey seem to appeal just fine in the Bay Area. In fact, I'd say that the main sources of social hookups and favor-trading around here are (a) churches and (b) fraternal orgs... possibly distantly followed by college alumni groups and actual college fraternities. I think just talking to an Apple dad about his life and priorities would be extremely eye-opening for a lot of people on HN.
- spoonjim 6y agoWhat is an Apple dad?
- legerdemain 6y agoA male human who works at Apple and has reproduced at least once.
- ajkjk 6y agoI... have never been aware of anyone in the Bay Area going to either a church or a fraternal org. But I guess it depends on what circles you run in.
- legerdemain 6y agoI would say that about 40% of my engineer peers belong to a church, but my circle tends to be pretty Korean/Asian. Church attendance is pretty ubiquitous around here. Larry Wall goes to a local church.
- ajkjk 6y agoWeird that our experiences are so different. Do you mean Korean/Asian immigrants, or Asian-American?
- TheRealDunkirk 6y ago> I think they exist, but they don't appeal to younger people. I live in the mid-west, where these organizations were very common. I'm ~50 years old, and I don't know ANYONE who's in one of them, and every one of them around the area that I drive by is in disrepair. I expect them to disappear with the boomer generation. Another feature of my location are all the small "mainline" churches (Presbyterian, Methodist, et. al.), who hover around 30-50 people, and have no members younger than 60. There's a business opportunity coming to buy up a lot of prime real estate when these churches fold in another 10 years. I think a huge problem with finding "community" now is the utter isolation caused by social media and access to the thinnest slice of the news you want to tolerate. It has created a culture where people are only tolerant to their SPECIFIC view of the world, and it's just really hard to find people who think EXACTLY like you.
- kls 6y agoFor those that live around Tampa, they can always join a Pirate Krewe https://interkrewe.com/ https://interkrewe.com/ They started out of the Gasparilla Festival http://gasparillapiratefest.com/ http://gasparillapiratefest.com/ but have become more like the Rotary club or the JC's. They tend to attract members from mid 20's on up.
- dagw 6y agoI think they exist, but they don't appeal to younger people. I actually tried to join a couple of those sorts of organizations, and I found them all very off-putting. Between the weird elitism, the arbitrary and time consuming hurdles for membership and the feeling that everybody there felt 20+ years older than me (even when they probably weren't) didn't make it seem like a good time. I like the concept though, I just wish there was one that felt more up to date and actually felt like a sort of thing I'd want to join.
- ValentineC 6y ago> I think they exist, but they don't appeal to younger people. For the tech and maker types, a hackerspace/makerspace might be more appropriate.