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> It seems to me this is not a facial recognition story but a story about how the state, with very little evidence, can ruin your life and leave you with very l

> It seems to me this is not a facial recognition story but a story about how the state, with very little evidence, can ruin your life and leave you with very little recourse. The facial recognition is relevant, as they relied on facial recognition software, though it is apparently illegal in New Jersey. From the article as well: > He asked for a lawyer, then was taken to a hallway where he was handcuffed to a bench. About an hour later, the officers – he counted seven – told him they were going to take him to a different room for more questions. As far as I understand U.S.A. law, when a suspect ask for a lawyer, the interrogation is to stop immediately, and a lawyer must be provided or he must be allowed to call one, and the lawyer must be præsent ere the interrogation continue. The real takeaway seems to be that the police did something illegal. The rest of your post is about many more rules, but the issue is that the rules were broken here.

tinalumfoil 6y ago
> As far as I understand U.S.A. law, when a suspect ask for a lawyer, the interrogation is to stop immediately, and a lawyer must be provided or he must be allowed to call one, and the lawyer must be præsent ere the interrogation continue. They can hold you for a surprisingly long time without a lawyer, and it's very easy to accidently rescind any rights you invoked. To be safe you need the ability to stay silent for 24h while still asserting your rights, possibly longer depending on the jurisdiction, and that's all before youre even charged with anything. Someone being held for 10 days as a suspect for a crime they didn't commit is unfortunately a benign occurrence for the American legal system. People regularly lose months of their life, held in captivity, awaiting trial.
- andreareina 6y ago
  /s/benign/common/ perhaps. Nothing benign about being held against their will.

tinalumfoil 6y ago

> As far as I understand U.S.A. law, when a suspect ask for a lawyer, the interrogation is to stop immediately, and a lawyer must be provided or he must be allowed to call one, and the lawyer must be præsent ere the interrogation continue. They can hold you for a surprisingly long time without a lawyer, and it's very easy to accidently rescind any rights you invoked. To be safe you need the ability to stay silent for 24h while still asserting your rights, possibly longer depending on the jurisdiction, and that's all before youre even charged with anything. Someone being held for 10 days as a suspect for a crime they didn't commit is unfortunately a benign occurrence for the American legal system. People regularly lose months of their life, held in captivity, awaiting trial.

andreareina 6y ago
/s/benign/common/ perhaps. Nothing benign about being held against their will.