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FWIW I live close to Shenzhen and have a company there and have never heard of this system actually being applied except through media announcements. I am skept

FWIW I live close to Shenzhen and have a company there and have never heard of this system actually being applied except through media announcements. I am skeptical it is widely deployed as jaywalking is rife here in nearby cities and in fact believe it is probably largely a proactive media announcement from a solutions provider to local police who is claiming to have better capabilities than they really do. Of course it will happen eventually but in urban areas globally we already carry cellphones and drive cars with number plates, so privacy left the arena some time ago... Maybe in the short term we will see a push-back of all-weather snow-busting bicycle-riding mesh networkers in Berlin or something, but I think the global trajectory is clear. What we really need is an alternative to commercial cellular.

drak0n1c 6y ago
At 5:30 in this Bloomberg video there's a discussion between expats, some talking about how they were hit by the new system. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydPqKhgh9Mg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydPqKhgh9Mg
- contingencies 6y ago
  I'm not doubting a system is deployed and can function sometimes, I'm doubting it's pervasive and generally effective even in Shenzhen. NB. Nanshan district where the guy mentions being done for jaywalking is the headquarters of Tencent.
  - drak0n1c 6y ago
    True - such surveillance is still costly, and not yet omnipresent. Similar to speed cameras at certain intersections in the US. The hope is that it remains just that, an occasional feature that inspires deterrence, and does not escalate into omniscience.
    - contingencies 6y ago
      I don't think it's costly. HikVision is one town away in Dongguan, and their foreign market just evaporated due to US sanctions. Cameras here are dirt cheap and many of them come paired with ICs that provide 'AI' as standard now. The only thing different in this case is overall resolution to cover an entire intersection (probably done with multiple cameras) and the face feature extraction code. Example Huawei product https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm=id=618652543962 https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm=id=618652543962 1080p SD card logging and 'AI' (probably event detection/trigger zones) USD$25 ordered at a volume of one.

drak0n1c 6y ago

At 5:30 in this Bloomberg video there's a discussion between expats, some talking about how they were hit by the new system. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydPqKhgh9Mg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydPqKhgh9Mg

contingencies 6y ago
I'm not doubting a system is deployed and can function sometimes, I'm doubting it's pervasive and generally effective even in Shenzhen. NB. Nanshan district where the guy mentions being done for jaywalking is the headquarters of Tencent.
- drak0n1c 6y ago
  True - such surveillance is still costly, and not yet omnipresent. Similar to speed cameras at certain intersections in the US. The hope is that it remains just that, an occasional feature that inspires deterrence, and does not escalate into omniscience.
  - contingencies 6y ago
    I don't think it's costly. HikVision is one town away in Dongguan, and their foreign market just evaporated due to US sanctions. Cameras here are dirt cheap and many of them come paired with ICs that provide 'AI' as standard now. The only thing different in this case is overall resolution to cover an entire intersection (probably done with multiple cameras) and the face feature extraction code. Example Huawei product https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm=id=618652543962 https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm=id=618652543962 1080p SD card logging and 'AI' (probably event detection/trigger zones) USD$25 ordered at a volume of one.