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In my opinion you're hurting clarity. Continuing to use 1024 is to me clearly being on the wrong side of history.

susam 6y ago
Point taken and I will reconsider the choice of the unit. By the way, I got curious about how various tools deal with the KiB vs. kB vs. KB situation. On macOS Catalina 10.15.7: $ head -c 92160 /dev/urandom > foo $ ls -l foo -rw-r--r-- 1 susam staff 92160 Dec 29 15:04 foo $ ls -lh foo -rw-r--r-- 1 susam staff 90K Dec 29 15:04 foo On Debian GNU/Linux 10.6 (buster): $ head -c 92160 /dev/urandom > foo $ ls -l foo -rw-r--r-- 1 susam susam 92160 Dec 29 09:35 foo $ ls -lh foo -rw-r--r-- 1 susam susam 90K Dec 29 09:35 foo $ ls -lh --si foo -rw-r--r-- 1 susam susam 93k Dec 29 09:35 foo $ sudo cp foo /var/www/html/foo $ wget http://127.0.0.1/foo -O /dev/null --2020-12-29 09:41:05-- http://127.0.0.1/foo Connecting to 127.0.0.1:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 92160 (90K) [application/octet-stream] Saving to: '/dev/null' /dev/null 100%[===================>] 90.00K --.-KB/s in 0s 2020-12-29 09:41:05 (845 MB/s) - '/dev/null' saved [92160/92160] This 90 kB (92 KiB) is also hosted temporarily at http://172.105.48.21/foo http://172.105.48.21/foo . When Firefox downloads it shows 90 KB in the Developer Tools > Network tab as well as in the download box [1]. However, after the file is downloaded, macOS Finder shows the file to be of 92 KB [2]. [1] https://i.imgur.com/Y0q5anu.png https://i.imgur.com/Y0q5anu.png [2] https://i.imgur.com/muZKcZa.png https://i.imgur.com/muZKcZa.png
- knorker 6y ago
  Some tools would break compatability if fixed. That doesn't mean new tooling should also be broken. Note that on OpenBSD "df" shows space in "blocks" by default, which pretty much nobody wants. Hard drives are sold in real units for decades. And floppies of "1.44MB" were always 1000 times 1024 times 1.44 bytes. Madness, eh?

Point taken and I will reconsider the choice of the unit. By the way, I got curious about how various tools deal with the KiB vs. kB vs. KB situation. On macOS Catalina 10.15.7: $ head -c 92160 /dev/urandom > foo $ ls -l foo -rw-r--r-- 1 susam staff 92160 Dec 29 15:04 foo $ ls -lh foo -rw-r--r-- 1 susam staff 90K Dec 29 15:04 foo On Debian GNU/Linux 10.6 (buster): $ head -c 92160 /dev/urandom > foo $ ls -l foo -rw-r--r-- 1 susam susam 92160 Dec 29 09:35 foo $ ls -lh foo -rw-r--r-- 1 susam susam 90K Dec 29 09:35 foo $ ls -lh --si foo -rw-r--r-- 1 susam susam 93k Dec 29 09:35 foo $ sudo cp foo /var/www/html/foo $ wget http://127.0.0.1/foo -O /dev/null --2020-12-29 09:41:05-- http://127.0.0.1/foo Connecting to 127.0.0.1:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 92160 (90K) [application/octet-stream] Saving to: '/dev/null' /dev/null 100%[===================>] 90.00K --.-KB/s in 0s 2020-12-29 09:41:05 (845 MB/s) - '/dev/null' saved [92160/92160] This 90 kB (92 KiB) is also hosted temporarily at http://172.105.48.21/foo http://172.105.48.21/foo . When Firefox downloads it shows 90 KB in the Developer Tools > Network tab as well as in the download box [1]. However, after the file is downloaded, macOS Finder shows the file to be of 92 KB [2]. [1] https://i.imgur.com/Y0q5anu.png https://i.imgur.com/Y0q5anu.png [2] https://i.imgur.com/muZKcZa.png https://i.imgur.com/muZKcZa.png

knorker 6y ago
Some tools would break compatability if fixed. That doesn't mean new tooling should also be broken. Note that on OpenBSD "df" shows space in "blocks" by default, which pretty much nobody wants. Hard drives are sold in real units for decades. And floppies of "1.44MB" were always 1000 times 1024 times 1.44 bytes. Madness, eh?