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The most important factor in keeping people alive nowadays is infrastructure. We're not self-sufficient anymore and it's pretty delusional to think that we'll b

by esarbe 6y ago

The most important factor in keeping people alive nowadays is infrastructure. We're not self-sufficient anymore and it's pretty delusional to think that we'll be able to move back to some kind of pre-industrial pastoral idyll. We are dependent on high-tech and that's not going to change. The easiest way to make everyone able to participate in that high-tech is to have high-density population centers with little infrastructure benefiting the most people.

raducu 6y ago
This is only true today because infrastructure is made ridiculously expensive by the same overlord-leaches that benefit from artificial scarcity of real-estate of those overpopulated cities which enslaves people and is driving the birthrate decline. A battery one order of magnitude better than what we have today would obliterate that need for infrastructure. Internet from the sky, VR, remote education, remote(AI) medicine, flying electric cars, compact fusion power, would mean unchaining the whole world from the sociopaths that are running it today, but we can't have that, because the sociopaths at the top like centralization in order to leach off the rest of the world.
- esarbe 6y ago
  No, it wouldn't. Nothing but a miraculous fabricator that can power and fabricate itself would obliterate the need for infrastructure. Let's just take one example; VR. For VR, you need VR googles. These need to be produced somewhere, in an industrial mass production because otherwise these VR googles would be prohibitive expensive. That means industrial scale energy production and industrial scale energy transportation and industrial scale energy storage. This industrial scale industry needs to be repaired and upgraded, probably by people. These people need housing, food, education, ... Now take a guess on what you need to provide each and every one of these? Yeah, right; infrastructure. It's a rat's tail. You cannot get a way from infrastructure if you want any kind of technological civilization.

by esarbe 6y ago

raducu 6y ago

This is only true today because infrastructure is made ridiculously expensive by the same overlord-leaches that benefit from artificial scarcity of real-estate of those overpopulated cities which enslaves people and is driving the birthrate decline. A battery one order of magnitude better than what we have today would obliterate that need for infrastructure. Internet from the sky, VR, remote education, remote(AI) medicine, flying electric cars, compact fusion power, would mean unchaining the whole world from the sociopaths that are running it today, but we can't have that, because the sociopaths at the top like centralization in order to leach off the rest of the world.

esarbe 6y ago
No, it wouldn't. Nothing but a miraculous fabricator that can power and fabricate itself would obliterate the need for infrastructure. Let's just take one example; VR. For VR, you need VR googles. These need to be produced somewhere, in an industrial mass production because otherwise these VR googles would be prohibitive expensive. That means industrial scale energy production and industrial scale energy transportation and industrial scale energy storage. This industrial scale industry needs to be repaired and upgraded, probably by people. These people need housing, food, education, ... Now take a guess on what you need to provide each and every one of these? Yeah, right; infrastructure. It's a rat's tail. You cannot get a way from infrastructure if you want any kind of technological civilization.