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I gave them up because I really, really like the look of a keyboard that is 100% keys with no gaps. I realise that's not a brilliant reason but that's why. I d

I gave them up because I really, really like the look of a keyboard that is 100% keys with no gaps. I realise that's not a brilliant reason but that's why. I don't want a numpad because getting my mouse closer to the center of my desk really helps with RSI for me. There weren't many options left at that point, especially since I wanted a UK layout and no unstandard key sizes (limits your options with keycaps). But yeah, if I could get something that looked as nice and had F+arrow keys I'd probably go for it. Fwiw I got used to the chords you need to access those pretty fast.

Veen 6y ago
> I don't want a numpad because getting my mouse closer to the center of my desk really helps with RSI for me Same. I bought a full-sized keyboard with numpad, but I felt it put the mouse too far off to the right. I much prefer the mouse to rest couple of inches from the enter key.
- function_seven 6y ago
  My current keyboard has no number pad for the same reason, but I miss it. I think my next one will have it on the left side.
  - Symbiote 6y ago
    You can buy a programmable macropad / keypad (there's a huge range in price). With the most programmable ones (look for "QMK"), you can assign keys to any arbitrary combination or sequence as you choose, and if required make layers, e.g. NumPad layer → IntelliJ shortcut layer → Some game shortcuts. Just an overview: http://xahlee.info/kbd/programable_keypads.html http://xahlee.info/kbd/programable_keypads.html I think the only disadvantage is it's a separate thing, so you have two things to push away from you if you don't want to use the keyboard.
cbm-vic-20 6y ago
> I don't want a numpad because getting my mouse closer to the center of my desk really helps with RSI for me. Same here. I went with a smaller keyboard for ergonomics. Also, I never use F-keys and rarely use the arrow keys, and there are some "60%" layouts (The [Mass]Drop ALT) that still have the arrow keys. I don't care for the RGB and other blingy crap on these, since I really don't look at the keyboard much anyway.
Symbiote 6y ago
> 100% keys with no gaps The purpose of the gaps is orientation: you can feel that you are going to press F4, because there's a gap below and to the right of it.
- IneffablePigeon 6y ago
  Sure, that's a nice perk. It's one I'm personally willing to give up for aesthetics and space on the desk. I'm aware it's not the most practical choice :) Funnily most laptop keyboards get away with no spaces between any keys even when there might be space. Granted, there are more considerations there, but I think convention has a little to do with it too.
MivLives 6y ago
I'm surprised how limited the options for 75% keyboards are. I'd think it'd attract a lot of people who went down to TKL.

Veen 6y ago

> I don't want a numpad because getting my mouse closer to the center of my desk really helps with RSI for me Same. I bought a full-sized keyboard with numpad, but I felt it put the mouse too far off to the right. I much prefer the mouse to rest couple of inches from the enter key.

function_seven 6y ago
My current keyboard has no number pad for the same reason, but I miss it. I think my next one will have it on the left side.
- Symbiote 6y ago
  You can buy a programmable macropad / keypad (there's a huge range in price). With the most programmable ones (look for "QMK"), you can assign keys to any arbitrary combination or sequence as you choose, and if required make layers, e.g. NumPad layer → IntelliJ shortcut layer → Some game shortcuts. Just an overview: http://xahlee.info/kbd/programable_keypads.html http://xahlee.info/kbd/programable_keypads.html I think the only disadvantage is it's a separate thing, so you have two things to push away from you if you don't want to use the keyboard.

cbm-vic-20 6y ago

> I don't want a numpad because getting my mouse closer to the center of my desk really helps with RSI for me. Same here. I went with a smaller keyboard for ergonomics. Also, I never use F-keys and rarely use the arrow keys, and there are some "60%" layouts (The [Mass]Drop ALT) that still have the arrow keys. I don't care for the RGB and other blingy crap on these, since I really don't look at the keyboard much anyway.

Symbiote 6y ago

> 100% keys with no gaps The purpose of the gaps is orientation: you can feel that you are going to press F4, because there's a gap below and to the right of it.

IneffablePigeon 6y ago
Sure, that's a nice perk. It's one I'm personally willing to give up for aesthetics and space on the desk. I'm aware it's not the most practical choice :) Funnily most laptop keyboards get away with no spaces between any keys even when there might be space. Granted, there are more considerations there, but I think convention has a little to do with it too.

MivLives 6y ago

I'm surprised how limited the options for 75% keyboards are. I'd think it'd attract a lot of people who went down to TKL.