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They said in the last image description that it was likely from the spacecraft itself though. Saying “it’s under investigation “ just means they wanted to get t

They said in the last image description that it was likely from the spacecraft itself though. Saying “it’s under investigation “ just means they wanted to get the images out ASAP before they had the team investigate the origin.

someperson 6y ago
The last image clearly states: "The origin is under investigation, but a probable source is aluminium scraped off the spacecraft sampler horn as the projectile was fired to stir up material during touchdown."
- dusted 6y ago
  I was thinking the same thing "probably scraped it off of itself" xD Mostly, because this is 2020, and finding any indication of extraterrestrial life is out of the question in this burning trash-heap of a year :)
  - ringshall 6y ago
    You (and seemingly everyone else compiling news-from-2020 lists) forget about the discovery of signs of life in the atmosphere of Venus. Not to be grandiose, but, if true, in 500 years this will likely be the only thing generally remembered about 2020. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02785-5 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02785-5
    - 1_player 6y ago
      Is there any update to this?
    - wingspar 6y ago
      "Potential signs of life on Venus are fading fast ...But those results have since come under scrutiny, including from the original discovery team, which, citing a calibration error in one telescope it used, has downgraded the strength of its claim. Although the proponents remain confident of a phosphine detection, other astronomers have suggested that sulfur dioxide, which makes up most clouds on Venus, could have caused a similar absorption, among other critiques. ..." https://science.sciencemag.org/content/370/6520/1021 https://science.sciencemag.org/content/370/6520/1021
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    - phkahler 6y ago
      >> signs of life in the atmosphere of Venus. Haha! What's more likely, that a compound is produced in a way we dont understand or that some new life form exists in a way we don't understand? If there were ever a time to apply occams razor that's it.
    - ringshall 6y ago
      Forget I said this. Clearly it’s impossible and the cranks at mit and nature should not have announced their findings.
    - mkl 6y ago
      Seems unlikely at this point. From Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_on_Venus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_on_Venus): "By late October 2020, the review of data processing of the data collected by both ALMA used in original publication of September 2020, and later JCMT data, has revealed background interpolation errors resulting in multiple spurious lines, including the spectral feature of phosphine. Re-analysis of data with a proper subtraction of background either does not result in the detection of the phosphine or detects it with concentration of 1ppb, 20 times below original estimate."

someperson 6y ago

The last image clearly states: "The origin is under investigation, but a probable source is aluminium scraped off the spacecraft sampler horn as the projectile was fired to stir up material during touchdown."

dusted 6y ago
I was thinking the same thing "probably scraped it off of itself" xD Mostly, because this is 2020, and finding any indication of extraterrestrial life is out of the question in this burning trash-heap of a year :)
- ringshall 6y ago
  You (and seemingly everyone else compiling news-from-2020 lists) forget about the discovery of signs of life in the atmosphere of Venus. Not to be grandiose, but, if true, in 500 years this will likely be the only thing generally remembered about 2020. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02785-5 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02785-5
  - 1_player 6y ago
    Is there any update to this?
  - wingspar 6y ago
    "Potential signs of life on Venus are fading fast ...But those results have since come under scrutiny, including from the original discovery team, which, citing a calibration error in one telescope it used, has downgraded the strength of its claim. Although the proponents remain confident of a phosphine detection, other astronomers have suggested that sulfur dioxide, which makes up most clouds on Venus, could have caused a similar absorption, among other critiques. ..." https://science.sciencemag.org/content/370/6520/1021 https://science.sciencemag.org/content/370/6520/1021
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  - phkahler 6y ago
    >> signs of life in the atmosphere of Venus. Haha! What's more likely, that a compound is produced in a way we dont understand or that some new life form exists in a way we don't understand? If there were ever a time to apply occams razor that's it.
  - ringshall 6y ago
    Forget I said this. Clearly it’s impossible and the cranks at mit and nature should not have announced their findings.
  - mkl 6y ago
    Seems unlikely at this point. From Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_on_Venus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_on_Venus): "By late October 2020, the review of data processing of the data collected by both ALMA used in original publication of September 2020, and later JCMT data, has revealed background interpolation errors resulting in multiple spurious lines, including the spectral feature of phosphine. Re-analysis of data with a proper subtraction of background either does not result in the detection of the phosphine or detects it with concentration of 1ppb, 20 times below original estimate."