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No, the missing part is not time travel. Sound comes from the skin and engines of the plane, where microphones could be located, and could potentially predict s
by wegs 6y ago
No, the missing part is not time travel. Sound comes from the skin and engines of the plane, where microphones could be located, and could potentially predict sound throughout the plane well in advance with an appropriate microphone array. You'd need a fair number of microphones, but I suspect the noise profile isn't too chaotic, which helps. You're talking about things like jet engines (which are repetitive), turbulence (which seems chaotic, but in practice, you shed vertices at a known rate), and a known cabin configuration (modulo people moving about). I suspect while the general solutions suffers from the curse of dimensionality, the specific one probably doesn't. A reasonable number of microphones, combined with decent models, could characterize the whole sound field.
Speakers, located in the seats, if they knew where ears were, could play sound to cancel that.
Decent microphones are $2, and what was expensive were things like microphone preamps, ADC, and the whole data pipeline. From there, we need a shit-ton of computation which really wasn't practical until... big-ass computation systems came out for the rise of ML.
The problem is hard today, but definitely not impossible. I don't think I would have given that same answer a decade ago. An NVidia Titan V brings over 100 teraflops. That's a lot of cycles one can throw at trying to predict sound by my ear from sound at the skin of the airplane in real-time.
- marcan_42 6y agoIf you've ever been in an airplane, you'll know that airplane cabin noise is largely uncorrelated rumble, not fixed-pitch components from the jet engines and such. Good luck solving for the response at a user's position for that, no matter how many microphones you throw at the problem. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te3pyLk_wBs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te3pyLk_wBs Spectrogram sample: https://mrcn.st/t/flight_noise.png https://mrcn.st/t/flight_noise.png I get that this is HN, but no, ML and AI do not magically solve all problems. Thankfully, most of the energy is in the low frequencies, which existing noise cancellation systems can already do a god job of dealing with in the near field.