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Too bad the doxing happens very late in the post. The bad actors are: -Alexander Novikov -Egor Agafonov -Eugene Kluchinski I think a dox is valid in this c

Too bad the doxing happens very late in the post. The bad actors are: -Alexander Novikov -Egor Agafonov -Eugene Kluchinski I think a dox is valid in this case, as hopefully young developers will stumble upon this page and avoid tainting their own names by associating with the thieves.

tonyedgecombe 6y ago
>The bad actors are: I used to think it would be a good idea to call out people for their mis-deeds but after a while I realised that these stories are often followed up with some crucial missing information. It probably isn't the case here but it happens often enough that I'd be wary about calling them out.
- rewq4321 6y ago
  Did you read the full post? What sort of missing information could possibly redeem them? They've built an almost-exact clone and are filing trademarks for his game's name all around the world. The information given in the post has heavily contrained the possible explanations of this.
  - dmix 6y ago
    There’s been plenty of examples of people on the internet (especially Twitter) getting it wrong. It’s actually a hobby of some groups to spread the wrong names purposefully. This is why doxxing is usually outright looked down upon. It’s a mob rule tactic that can be very dangerous. Regardless if this case sounds “correct” or “just”.
    - ealexhudson 6y ago
      In this case, it would be difficult for him not to dox them: his game is closely attached to his identity, and the filers of trade marks (and directors of companies, for that matter) are all matters of public record. These names etc are all in the public domain for pretty much this reason.
      - dmix 6y ago
        That may be but let it float around in other channels instead. I like to put work in maintaining the idealism of HN as the morally sane plane. One of which is where we don’t engage in doxxing here. I also don’t think or care if dang should delete it, even if I think it’s bad or fuck em. Cultural chastising with plenty of upvoting and downvoting is enough IMO in order to keep a community not shit. As in any major subreddit if you want an example of shitty. The enemy in my mind is fostering internet mobs which is going too far and abandons due process. And them thinking they are contributing to the world by mixing IRL destruction with their internet activism or vigilanteism Those tactics should not be embraced or encouraged on our site given the obvious downsides, two of which being a) they get the wrong person way too often though newbie investigations that should be left to professional. Beyond handing them tips and advice by the work of autists AND b) it encourages thought policing on and c) doling out overly harsh punishments that don’t fit the ‘crime’, etc etc We figured out these risks already long in society. We’re just mostly repeating them in far too many cases to make mob internet justice worthy of our time.
- blunte 6y ago
  If TFA could find them online, then collecting and displaying all that public info is not doxxing.

tonyedgecombe 6y ago

>The bad actors are: I used to think it would be a good idea to call out people for their mis-deeds but after a while I realised that these stories are often followed up with some crucial missing information. It probably isn't the case here but it happens often enough that I'd be wary about calling them out.

rewq4321 6y ago
Did you read the full post? What sort of missing information could possibly redeem them? They've built an almost-exact clone and are filing trademarks for his game's name all around the world. The information given in the post has heavily contrained the possible explanations of this.
- dmix 6y ago
  There’s been plenty of examples of people on the internet (especially Twitter) getting it wrong. It’s actually a hobby of some groups to spread the wrong names purposefully. This is why doxxing is usually outright looked down upon. It’s a mob rule tactic that can be very dangerous. Regardless if this case sounds “correct” or “just”.
  - ealexhudson 6y ago
    In this case, it would be difficult for him not to dox them: his game is closely attached to his identity, and the filers of trade marks (and directors of companies, for that matter) are all matters of public record. These names etc are all in the public domain for pretty much this reason.
    - dmix 6y ago
      That may be but let it float around in other channels instead. I like to put work in maintaining the idealism of HN as the morally sane plane. One of which is where we don’t engage in doxxing here. I also don’t think or care if dang should delete it, even if I think it’s bad or fuck em. Cultural chastising with plenty of upvoting and downvoting is enough IMO in order to keep a community not shit. As in any major subreddit if you want an example of shitty. The enemy in my mind is fostering internet mobs which is going too far and abandons due process. And them thinking they are contributing to the world by mixing IRL destruction with their internet activism or vigilanteism Those tactics should not be embraced or encouraged on our site given the obvious downsides, two of which being a) they get the wrong person way too often though newbie investigations that should be left to professional. Beyond handing them tips and advice by the work of autists AND b) it encourages thought policing on and c) doling out overly harsh punishments that don’t fit the ‘crime’, etc etc We figured out these risks already long in society. We’re just mostly repeating them in far too many cases to make mob internet justice worthy of our time.
blunte 6y ago
If TFA could find them online, then collecting and displaying all that public info is not doxxing.