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I find the people who think there is such a thing as an American Nazi movement are the ones whose idea of what a Nazi is comes from Marvel comics' Hydra. A sim
by konjin 6y ago
I find the people who think there is such a thing as an American Nazi movement are the ones whose idea of what a Nazi is comes from Marvel comics' Hydra.
A simple question: have you actually read Mein Kampf or the Communist Manifesto?
- cygx 6y agoYou don't think it's a bit more than bad cosplay when you have people marching to chants of 'Jews will not replace us'?
- konjin 6y agoI think that there are way more than 500 Nazis in the US. I also think that they have as much power as witches did in Salem, for largely the same reasons. That said don't expect the moral panic to calm down any time soon. It's odd seeing the side of politics I identified with until recently become a larger danger to democracy than the side I was sure would implement a theocracy.
- TheOtherHobbes 6y agoYou can be a fascist without being a Nazi. Fascism is an authoritarian nationalist death cult which glorifies in violence and war, believes in strict competitive social hierarchies where some people are born inherently and disposably inferior to others, and is deeply threatened by non-conformity. Fascism is also pro-corporate and anti-localist. And it's fundamentally Romantic and emotional, and deliberately anti-rational. Nazis were a subset of fascism. The US and Russia both show many signs of same in embryo but without the goose stepping and the silly helmets. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/21521958/what-is-fascism-signs-donald-trump https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/21521958/what-is-fas...
- varjag 6y agoRussia does tons of goose-stepping. Something Trump also attempted to introduce for 4th July celebrations in America.
- vkou 6y agoA few points. 1. There's a clear continuity of goose-stepping in Russia from a time that long predates Putin. 2. We have goose-stepping in the United States, too, that long predates Trump, and will almost certainly outlast him. It doesn't look like weird one-handed salutes, it looks like a daily recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance.
- varjag 6y ago1. Yes, an influence from 19th century Prussia, notorious proto-fascist state. 2. You can argue for a lot of things metaphorically and perhaps even have a case, but that's not goose-stepping.