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There's a really compelling theory that most of what's buried at Pompeii (and presented as being from the ancient eruption) is actually from the 1700s eruption.

by rriepe 6y ago

pjc50 6y ago
.. what, the stuff with the Latin inscriptions and Roman-era pottery?
- rriepe 6y ago
  Do you think there's more of that stuff than stuff from a bigger city and bigger eruption in the same place nearly 2000 years later? How does archaeology work in your mind, pjc50? It's centuries-old new media hype from landowners who realized their 200-year-old ruins wouldn't sell nearly as well as 2000-year-old ruins. It's everyone clinging to one man's account of an event that happened millennia ago while ignoring the mountain that fell on them centuries ago. It might be the world's first tourist trap. Both eruptions happened and there's stuff to see from both, yes, but 95% of what's on display in Pompeii is from the more recent major eruption, in my opinion. The tools and buildings look so modern because they are so modern.
  - codesnik 6y ago
    omg. Do yourself a favor, come visit Italy one day and go the museum or two. See whole range of stuff from stone age, to etruscan art, to roman, to early medieval. It's not like it was buried only in one particular place, and period attribution isn't that hard and very visible from the art style. Italy is a giant museum under the open sky, some buildings are still standing, rebuilt and repurposed multiple times.
    - rriepe 6y ago
      > and period attribution isn't that hard and very visible from the art style ...right, and everyone who looks at Pompeii says "It looks so modern!" I'm not the one denying history here. It's all of Pompeii acting like the second eruption/burial didn't happen.
codesnik 6y ago
"compelling"?!
pugworthy 6y ago
Sources required for such a claim
- rriepe 6y ago
  Sure, here's a primary source: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_Three_Graces,_from_Pompeii_(fresco).jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_Three_Graces,_fr... It's a fresco of the Three Graces. From Pompeii. From the first century. Just whip me up a timeline here of where that fits in at all: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Three_Graces https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Three_Graces If you can find a Three Graces made in a one-digit, two-digit or three-digit year, it would do a lot to change my mind.
  - jfk13 6y ago
    https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/pdf/10.2307/1512847 https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/pdf/10.2307/1512847

There's a really compelling theory that most of what's buried at Pompeii (and presented as being from the ancient eruption) is actually from the 1700s eruption.

by rriepe 6y ago

There's a really compelling theory that most of what's buried at Pompeii (and presented as being from the ancient eruption) is actually from the 1700s eruption.

pjc50 6y ago

.. what, the stuff with the Latin inscriptions and Roman-era pottery?

rriepe 6y ago
Do you think there's more of that stuff than stuff from a bigger city and bigger eruption in the same place nearly 2000 years later? How does archaeology work in your mind, pjc50? It's centuries-old new media hype from landowners who realized their 200-year-old ruins wouldn't sell nearly as well as 2000-year-old ruins. It's everyone clinging to one man's account of an event that happened millennia ago while ignoring the mountain that fell on them centuries ago. It might be the world's first tourist trap. Both eruptions happened and there's stuff to see from both, yes, but 95% of what's on display in Pompeii is from the more recent major eruption, in my opinion. The tools and buildings look so modern because they are so modern.
- codesnik 6y ago
  omg. Do yourself a favor, come visit Italy one day and go the museum or two. See whole range of stuff from stone age, to etruscan art, to roman, to early medieval. It's not like it was buried only in one particular place, and period attribution isn't that hard and very visible from the art style. Italy is a giant museum under the open sky, some buildings are still standing, rebuilt and repurposed multiple times.
  - rriepe 6y ago
    > and period attribution isn't that hard and very visible from the art style ...right, and everyone who looks at Pompeii says "It looks so modern!" I'm not the one denying history here. It's all of Pompeii acting like the second eruption/burial didn't happen.

codesnik 6y ago

"compelling"?!

pugworthy 6y ago

Sources required for such a claim

rriepe 6y ago
Sure, here's a primary source: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_Three_Graces,_from_Pompeii_(fresco).jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_Three_Graces,_fr... It's a fresco of the Three Graces. From Pompeii. From the first century. Just whip me up a timeline here of where that fits in at all: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Three_Graces https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Three_Graces If you can find a Three Graces made in a one-digit, two-digit or three-digit year, it would do a lot to change my mind.
- jfk13 6y ago
  https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/pdf/10.2307/1512847 https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/pdf/10.2307/1512847