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Reddit suspended two people who use Dystopia, across three accounts
- tt433 6y agoCan't figure out how to show the user ads?
- lights0123 6y agoIt's certainly not that, other apps that use only public APIs that don't show ads (e.g. Apollo) are specifically acknowledged and allowed by Reddit admins.
- jsnell 6y agoThe speculation in the thread appears to be that this is triggered by a part of the app that is not using the public APIs. But also, I'd bet that this is just FPs from anti-abuse, not some kind of ad blocking conspiracy. Somebody sent a lot of spam using the chat feature, and the fingerprint of that traffic happens to match the fingerprint of this application. And rather than combine both signals derived from the chat message content and from fingerprinting for issuing their bans, they just used the latter.
- pkaye 6y agoI've been using Baconreader for a long while and it has no Reddit ads.
- robocat 6y agoDystopia is an iOS app for using Reddit if you are blind. Notes from when it was released two years ago: https://www.applevis.com/forum/ios-ipados/i-made-fully-accessible-reddit-app-ios-its-free-ad-less-and-i-need-beta-testers https://www.applevis.com/forum/ios-ipados/i-made-fully-acces...
- sieabahlpark 6y agoOh I'm glad the blind will be able to see this post and get right on that. Nevermind reddit changing to a model of choosing what apps can see their content.
- lawnchair_larry 6y agoWell that’s a lie of a headline if I ever saw one.
- yjftsjthsd-h 6y agoIt's not ironclad, but since Reddit has refused to explain why it's banning people and there's an obvious common thread, the title is a fair belief at the moment, albeit with some uncertainty.
- D13Fd 6y agoNot only is it not ironclad, it’s unsupported. Accurate headlines would be more like “Reddit bans users after they use an accessibility app” or “Reddit users banned after they use accessibility app.” There is just no basis for ascribing intent here.
- MrStonedOne 6y agoThere needs to be some sort of push in the other direction for this trend of not stating why bans happen, and treating wild speculation as fact because the site owners choose not to provide the user (and the public they tell) info on the ban is a perfectly acceptable solution.
- D13Fd 6y agoTreating wild speculation as fact just kills credibility. The headline is simply inaccurate. We don’t know whether Reddit banned the users because they were blind and using an accessibility app (extremely unlikely) or because they were using an accessibility app with extra-API features that may have inadvertently violated some policy or that may have taken actions that resembled those of a banned app or a spam app.
- MereInterest 6y agoWhich is a major reason why the reason for a ban should be required for any ban. There is a basis for investigating intent. The evidence that would be necessary for ascribing intent has been obscured by the same party that made the ban.
- underseacables 6y agoAre there any ADA repercussions possible here ?
- ballenf 6y agoSo far it doesn’t look like there’s even too strong of a pattern establishing the link between the account suspensions. Even if there was a link just because the app is accessible doesn’t mean Reddit can’t ban it. If the Reddit website isn’t accessible then they have a problem.
- markdown 6y agoThe guy admits to using multiple accounts. Nobody needs multiple accounts. Perhaps they were using the accounts to game reddit.
- bathtub365 6y agoWhy does no one need to have multiple accounts on Reddit? There are multiple subreddits where people post using throwaway accounts to protect their identity but still engage with the community.
- FossilRookyWide 6y ago>Nobody needs multiple accounts. I use multiple accounts on Reddit; one for posts and comments I want associated with my name, one for my more radical political views, and one for general shitposts. Reddit happily supports multiple accounts and RES even makes it trivial to switch between them. While it is possible that nobody needs multiple accounts, they can be useful.
- andybak 6y ago"Nobody needs multiple accounts" Sorry. What? I can think of many valid reasons. How about simply wanting to keep different aspects of your public persons separate?
- MrStonedOne 6y agoReddit community guidelines allow you to use multiple accounts, and bans for abusing them are almost always shadowbans on your alts so its votes stop getting counted.
- ygjb 6y agoNo social media site needs to enforce restrictions on multiple accounts, the primary reason they do is to exert control over their users. Just off the top of my head a single use case: a reddit account for posts I make for myself, vs. those I make on behalf of my employer (or more specifically in my case, my wife's business). Then there are bot accounts, users who want to keep their interests and hobbies distinct. Users who have a income based off of activity on social media (and not just sex-workers, but also indie game designers, streamers, social media management folks, etc, etc, etc). You might not think that you want to keep the different "personas" that you have separate on social media, but most people do, and I say this as a person who uses a single username and profile on most social media sites. If you are in the business of designing user facing systems I really hope you take some time to learn about how folks use computer systems and user-centric design.
- bzb6 6y agoAlternative title: “Reddit: twenty first century eugenesia?”
- swebs 6y ago>My name was SLJ7 until a few days ago, when that account got suspended. For those who don't know, suspentions are Reddit's answer to the controversial shadowban. I'm still able to view Reddit, but can't interact in any way with my subs. I got a PM alerting me to this fact, and it very unhelpfully referenced the content policy, which I'm 99% certain I haven't violated. So, I went through the fairly easy appeal process, stating that I don't know what I did and would like to have my account back. I received what was certainly an automated response telling me my suspention would not be lifted, and I should familiarize myself with the content policy. It seems like every year that website just gets worse and worse.
- thatswrong0 6y agoYep. Once they disable old.reddit.com, I’ll stop using it for good.
- miki123211 6y agoI hate old Reddit (and HN links to old Reddit) precisely for accessibility reasons. Not sure why people are complaining about the new one so much, but it's definitely better accessibility-wise.
- PurpleFoxy 6y agoBecause it’s incredibly slow, buggy and loaded with trackers and pop ups.
- ReactiveJelly 6y agoI only hate it because it's less dense. The left and right margins are gigantic. Every headline takes about twice as much space, so it takes longer to read the same amount of headlines and pick out anything worth reading. Maybe it makes sense on a newer phone, or fullscreened on a desktop. I usually run Reddit at 1000x1000 on a desktop, so it looks like crap.
- thatswrong0 6y ago
- saltyshake 6y agoArticle says Reddit suspended TWO people, the HN post title makes it sound they suspended everyone using the client. Please use the original title from the article.
- dghughes 6y agoThat would be bizarre to just go after two people out of the many that use the Dystopia accessibility app for reddit. And I count at least four in the linked page: slj7, Fastfinge, account_needhelp2020 (seems to be a temp account), RJHand
- znpy 6y agoReddit intensifies the war against its own users.
- 93po 6y agoreddit intensifies war against non-advertising friendly users