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> Surely it does not cost $2,000 to make a note of someone’s ex-citizenship. Of course. Still, doesn’t renunciation of US citizenship actually require an act o

> Surely it does not cost $2,000 to make a note of someone’s ex-citizenship. Of course. Still, doesn’t renunciation of US citizenship actually require an act of Congress annually, under which all recent applicants are included? That the price was jacked up to $2000 is outright exploitation of desperate people, but certainly there would be some administrative fee (like the earlier one, which was generally considered reasonable) to cover the chain of people from your local US consulate to those congressional staff.

rwmj 6y ago
> doesn’t renunciation of US citizenship actually require an act of Congress annually, under which all recent applicants are included? That's strangely absurd! Also wouldn't it be a bill of attainder (thus against the Constitution)?
- true_religion 6y ago
  No. Acts of Congress are also necessary to commission US officers. Similar procedure is used to confirm people to federally appointed positions or allow individuals expidited paths to US citizenship. Bills of attainer seems to refer solely to acts that render a person guilty and punish them outside of normal jurisprudence.
eesmith 6y ago
> doesn’t renunciation of US citizenship actually require an act of Congress annually, under which all recent applicants are included? No. At least, none that I've heard of, and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relinquishment_of_United_States_nationality https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relinquishment_of_United_State... makes no mention of it. There is a quarterly publication of those who have renounced citzenship - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quarterly_Publication_of_Individuals_Who_Have_Chosen_to_Expatriate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quarterly_Publication_of_Indiv... . But that appears to have been put into place mostly to try to shame rich people who expatriated, under an invalid idea that most renunciations were from rich people trying to avoid paying US taxes.

rwmj 6y ago

> doesn’t renunciation of US citizenship actually require an act of Congress annually, under which all recent applicants are included? That's strangely absurd! Also wouldn't it be a bill of attainder (thus against the Constitution)?

true_religion 6y ago
No. Acts of Congress are also necessary to commission US officers. Similar procedure is used to confirm people to federally appointed positions or allow individuals expidited paths to US citizenship. Bills of attainer seems to refer solely to acts that render a person guilty and punish them outside of normal jurisprudence.

eesmith 6y ago

> doesn’t renunciation of US citizenship actually require an act of Congress annually, under which all recent applicants are included? No. At least, none that I've heard of, and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relinquishment_of_United_States_nationality https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relinquishment_of_United_State... makes no mention of it. There is a quarterly publication of those who have renounced citzenship - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quarterly_Publication_of_Individuals_Who_Have_Chosen_to_Expatriate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quarterly_Publication_of_Indiv... . But that appears to have been put into place mostly to try to shame rich people who expatriated, under an invalid idea that most renunciations were from rich people trying to avoid paying US taxes.