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>It’s an insurance policy against monetary and fiscal policy irresponsibility from central banks and governments globally. Seems like buying into the stock mar

>It’s an insurance policy against monetary and fiscal policy irresponsibility from central banks and governments globally. Seems like buying into the stock market is a better insurance policy against inflation since you're tracking the actual economy

alwillis 6y ago
Seems like buying into the stock market is a better insurance policy against inflation since you're tracking the actual economy No. Stocks are hitting all time highs due to the Fed printing trillions of dollars while unemployment continues to soar. Many people are facing food scarcity and people are in food lines that stretch for miles. Nothing about the stock market right now has anything to do with the actual economy.
- purple_ferret 6y ago
  It's a reflection in that revenues are at all time highs for many companies. Shopify running at Black Friday Numbers all summer, for instance. If you're worried about your cash losing value, it seems like a better idea to peg it to the companies that create value, not some random deflationary asset like Bitcoin that isn't used for anything but speculation.
  - alwillis 6y ago
    Mass Mutual’s $100 million investment isn’t “speculation”: https://www.investopedia.com/decoding-insurance-giant-massmutuals-bitcoin-investment-5092586 https://www.investopedia.com/decoding-insurance-giant-massmu... Michael Saylor invested $425 million of his company’s treasury into bitcoin and then issued $600 million in debt to buy more bitcoin. The podcast is worth a listen to understand why MicroStrategy and other companies are using bitcoin to preserve value: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/we-study-billionaires-the-investors-podcast-network/id928933489 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/we-study-billionaires-...
    - Closi 6y ago
      > Mass Mutual’s $100 million investment isn’t “speculation” Of course it is speculation - in fact it is pretty much the book definition of speculation (The purchase of an asset with the hope that it will become more valuable in the near future). There are no dividends and there is no interest and any RoI is solely derived from the asset value increasing - so if it's not speculation then what is it?

alwillis 6y ago

Seems like buying into the stock market is a better insurance policy against inflation since you're tracking the actual economy No. Stocks are hitting all time highs due to the Fed printing trillions of dollars while unemployment continues to soar. Many people are facing food scarcity and people are in food lines that stretch for miles. Nothing about the stock market right now has anything to do with the actual economy.

purple_ferret 6y ago
It's a reflection in that revenues are at all time highs for many companies. Shopify running at Black Friday Numbers all summer, for instance. If you're worried about your cash losing value, it seems like a better idea to peg it to the companies that create value, not some random deflationary asset like Bitcoin that isn't used for anything but speculation.
- alwillis 6y ago
  Mass Mutual’s $100 million investment isn’t “speculation”: https://www.investopedia.com/decoding-insurance-giant-massmutuals-bitcoin-investment-5092586 https://www.investopedia.com/decoding-insurance-giant-massmu... Michael Saylor invested $425 million of his company’s treasury into bitcoin and then issued $600 million in debt to buy more bitcoin. The podcast is worth a listen to understand why MicroStrategy and other companies are using bitcoin to preserve value: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/we-study-billionaires-the-investors-podcast-network/id928933489 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/we-study-billionaires-...
  - Closi 6y ago
    > Mass Mutual’s $100 million investment isn’t “speculation” Of course it is speculation - in fact it is pretty much the book definition of speculation (The purchase of an asset with the hope that it will become more valuable in the near future). There are no dividends and there is no interest and any RoI is solely derived from the asset value increasing - so if it's not speculation then what is it?