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Yes, because the greatest famines of the past 200 years, during the Great Leap Forward and holodomor, were caused by following extremist free market policies, n

Yes, because the greatest famines of the past 200 years, during the Great Leap Forward and holodomor, were caused by following extremist free market policies, not the opposite.

jahaja 6y ago
So cocksure, yet so ignorant. A bad look. A quick google would've given you a few of those.
- seibelj 6y ago
  So ignorant that every implementation of socialism / communism, or any economic system that tried to control prices in some systemic way, starved or outright murdered vast amounts of humanity? I love free societies and you should appreciate that capitalists allow the socialists to discuss revolution freely. Because if and when the socialists take over, I can guarantee they won’t afford the capitalists the same freedom.
  - jahaja 6y ago
    > Because if and when the socialists take over, I can guarantee they won’t afford the capitalists the same freedom. You should know your enemy better than lazily repeating Cold War rhetoric. 99% of all socialists today are firmly democratic.
    - seibelj 6y ago
      ... as we watch the most overtly socialist countries on earth (Cuba, China, Venezuela, North Korea) do exactly the same playbook of thought crime, murder, and torture?
      - jahaja 6y ago
        Are you just gonna parrot shallow Cold War rhetoric or what? The authoritarian socialists countries inevitable end result is the reason why socialists today are firmly democratic. If you are curious about socialist history, which I doubt, you will find plenty of democratic socialist writers flaming the authoritarians before, during, and after the USSR. Bertrand Russell's "The Practice and Theory of Bolshevism" is a good one.
        seibelj 6y ago
        Ah, so your version of socialism is just capitalism with some redistribution. The moment you let democracy vote on the direction of private capital, the entire system falls apart, but you seem to agree that leads to mass murder.

Yes, because the greatest famines of the past 200 years, during the Great Leap Forward and holodomor, were caused by following extremist free market policies, not the opposite.

jahaja 6y ago

So cocksure, yet so ignorant. A bad look. A quick google would've given you a few of those.

seibelj 6y ago
So ignorant that every implementation of socialism / communism, or any economic system that tried to control prices in some systemic way, starved or outright murdered vast amounts of humanity? I love free societies and you should appreciate that capitalists allow the socialists to discuss revolution freely. Because if and when the socialists take over, I can guarantee they won’t afford the capitalists the same freedom.
- jahaja 6y ago
  > Because if and when the socialists take over, I can guarantee they won’t afford the capitalists the same freedom. You should know your enemy better than lazily repeating Cold War rhetoric. 99% of all socialists today are firmly democratic.
  - seibelj 6y ago
    ... as we watch the most overtly socialist countries on earth (Cuba, China, Venezuela, North Korea) do exactly the same playbook of thought crime, murder, and torture?
    - jahaja 6y ago
      Are you just gonna parrot shallow Cold War rhetoric or what? The authoritarian socialists countries inevitable end result is the reason why socialists today are firmly democratic. If you are curious about socialist history, which I doubt, you will find plenty of democratic socialist writers flaming the authoritarians before, during, and after the USSR. Bertrand Russell's "The Practice and Theory of Bolshevism" is a good one.
      - seibelj 6y ago
        Ah, so your version of socialism is just capitalism with some redistribution. The moment you let democracy vote on the direction of private capital, the entire system falls apart, but you seem to agree that leads to mass murder.