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This is pretty much the Thanksgiving fallout. Or what I will now call Thanks-for-giving-me-covid. AMA continues to befuddle me. If everyone started taking 4000

This is pretty much the Thanksgiving fallout. Or what I will now call Thanks-for-giving-me-covid. AMA continues to befuddle me. If everyone started taking 4000 IU of Vitamin D today, there would be a 10x fall in deaths. And it's available immediately. That will help get the vaccine distributed and reduce the death and admission rate in the mean time. Also, there are now reports that anything that can trigger an igA response will also kill the virus. Apparently covid is rather easy to kill but we're not doing anything intelligent as a species to stop it.

gruez 6y ago
>AMA continues to befuddle me. If everyone started taking 4000 IU of Vitamin D today, there would be a 10x fall in deaths. source?
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- edoceo 6y ago
  Not OP but maybe they were thinking of this one: https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsos.201912 https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsos.201912
- 0-_-0 6y ago
  https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960076020302764 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S096007602... "Of 50 patients treated with calcifediol, one required admission to the ICU (2%), while of 26 untreated patients, 13 required admission (50 %)" So the effect was in this case 25x. HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24366006 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24366006
msandford 6y ago
There have been many studies that give people a few hundred IU per day (versus a few thousand) of Vit D that show little real benefit, tragically. This leads people to believe - through the pretense of knowledge - that Vit D supplements are useless. Combine that with high faith in "science" as if studies can't ever be poorly designed and blammo now you have experts telling people it's a waste of money that makes your pee expensive. It's truly sad. Just Google "vitamins are useless" to see what's getting turned out. Edit: personally I feel it's like giving starving people 200 cal per day of food, seeing that they die anyhow and saying "look food doesn't work to fix starvation!" yeah maybe not, but at what dose? If the dose makes the poison perhaps the dose also makes the medicine

gruez 6y ago

>AMA continues to befuddle me. If everyone started taking 4000 IU of Vitamin D today, there would be a 10x fall in deaths. source?

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edoceo 6y ago
Not OP but maybe they were thinking of this one: https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsos.201912 https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsos.201912
0-_-0 6y ago
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960076020302764 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S096007602... "Of 50 patients treated with calcifediol, one required admission to the ICU (2%), while of 26 untreated patients, 13 required admission (50 %)" So the effect was in this case 25x. HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24366006 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24366006

msandford 6y ago

There have been many studies that give people a few hundred IU per day (versus a few thousand) of Vit D that show little real benefit, tragically. This leads people to believe - through the pretense of knowledge - that Vit D supplements are useless. Combine that with high faith in "science" as if studies can't ever be poorly designed and blammo now you have experts telling people it's a waste of money that makes your pee expensive. It's truly sad. Just Google "vitamins are useless" to see what's getting turned out. Edit: personally I feel it's like giving starving people 200 cal per day of food, seeing that they die anyhow and saying "look food doesn't work to fix starvation!" yeah maybe not, but at what dose? If the dose makes the poison perhaps the dose also makes the medicine