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I don't trust TEPCO reports at all; TEPCO has not given me any reasons to trust them. They knew about the meltdowns and the leakages all along, but choose to d

I don't trust TEPCO reports at all; TEPCO has not given me any reasons to trust them. They knew about the meltdowns and the leakages all along, but choose to deny it until months later. EDIT: And keeping evacuation zone at 20km when there are high radiation 80km out? Come on. That brings me back to my original point. I was not taking sides on pro/anti nuclear. I fear for my friends' lives in Japan. Because their government is weak and useless and saving face. That is why I was asking for independent monitoring links for plutonium and uranium. So that they can use scientific data to determine their own fate.

icedpulleys 15y ago
I haven't been able to follow the story as closely as I would have liked. Did TEPCO actively deny meltdowns and leakages, or did they just not confirm them? I thought that it was the latter, but could have missed overt denials.
mpyne 15y ago
> They knew about the meltdowns and the leakages all along, but choose to deny it until months later. I don't know about leakage, but they've been very clear that the fuel had melted down for a very long time now, at least since after that first week. The only question has been how substantial has the fuel damage been, and now at least for Unit 1 we know the answer. > I fear for my friends' lives in Japan. Because their government is weak and useless and saving face. Independent monitoring should be used, but if you're really worried why don't you ask your friends to take actions assuming that there is plutonium and uranium all over the place (e.g. air masks outside, frequent washing of vehicles/hands/outerwear)? I hate to say this but it's not like knowing exactly how much radioactivity is out there would change the actions they should take too much one way or the other: wash that shit off, don't eat foods/liquids that are contaminated. Plus, you really shouldn't ask for merely plutonium/uranium, as if radioactive Strontium or Cesium that the government is reporting figures for are that much better -- they're also nuclides of concern, so if you don't trust the government then you should also push for independent monitoring of those radionuclides.

icedpulleys 15y ago

I haven't been able to follow the story as closely as I would have liked. Did TEPCO actively deny meltdowns and leakages, or did they just not confirm them? I thought that it was the latter, but could have missed overt denials.

mpyne 15y ago

> They knew about the meltdowns and the leakages all along, but choose to deny it until months later. I don't know about leakage, but they've been very clear that the fuel had melted down for a very long time now, at least since after that first week. The only question has been how substantial has the fuel damage been, and now at least for Unit 1 we know the answer. > I fear for my friends' lives in Japan. Because their government is weak and useless and saving face. Independent monitoring should be used, but if you're really worried why don't you ask your friends to take actions assuming that there is plutonium and uranium all over the place (e.g. air masks outside, frequent washing of vehicles/hands/outerwear)? I hate to say this but it's not like knowing exactly how much radioactivity is out there would change the actions they should take too much one way or the other: wash that shit off, don't eat foods/liquids that are contaminated. Plus, you really shouldn't ask for merely plutonium/uranium, as if radioactive Strontium or Cesium that the government is reporting figures for are that much better -- they're also nuclides of concern, so if you don't trust the government then you should also push for independent monitoring of those radionuclides.