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I'm in the same situation: until I figure (if ever) how to use NixOS and control version my OS, I tend to use Docker for any application with lots of dependenci

I'm in the same situation: until I figure (if ever) how to use NixOS and control version my OS, I tend to use Docker for any application with lots of dependencies, specially Python related ones

physicsgraph 6y ago
Did you try the Docker-based approach after trying Python's virtualenv? Or did you go directly to Docker?
- sdepablos 6y ago
  No, I've using virtualenv for quite some time and I still use it when I'm the person in control of the dependencies, though I'm moving little by little to the docker way. Why? Because sometimes the problem is not only on the dependencies, but in Python itself. As an example, as of today gcloud does not support Python 3.9.
fuzzybear3965 6y ago
I've recently spent a few hours in NixOS land. I even built my own ISO and booted into it from an SD card. If you want a 30 minute intro to getting started then just ping me. I'm en route to something like what you want and I'm not far ahead of you.
setheron 6y ago
Reach out to me if you want to learn Nix I'm always happy to help people climb the steep learning curve
- stack_underflow 6y ago
  Curious, does one need to use nixOS for an optimal experience? I've been using debian for a long time and would prefer not to have to switch OSs but the idea of using nix for having full control over my package graph is very tempting. I've been somewhat procrastinating on trying nix as I've heard GNU Guix has a similar feature set and haven't been able to decide on which one to dive into... My ideal setup would be to just be able to run a single shell script that configures a new machine to the exact state of all my other dev machines. I have a shell script that somewhat does this but it's not completely unattended and still requires a lot of manual config for certain steps. Aside from that my main use case is being able to easily share a dev/build environment with others for ensuring that they can compile a certain project exactly as I do. For now I just use docker but it's frustrating not having explicit control over the layer cache and being able to tell it what to cache and what not to.
  - ris 6y ago
    > Curious, does one need to use nixOS for an optimal experience? My experience: no. I've been very happily using Nix on debian for years. Debian gives me my boring desktop apps (I have very very boring tastes), almost all my tinkering and development starts with drawing all the prerequisites from Nix. The only times you get weirdness from using non-NixOS linux are things like running opengl apps, which simply require a wrapper script like `nixGL` to function properly. And darwin Nix is just about the only thing that makes macos a bearable platform for me.
- sdepablos 6y ago
  Thanks setheron. If I find the time (the eternal issue) I may to take you on your word )

I'm in the same situation: until I figure (if ever) how to use NixOS and control version my OS, I tend to use Docker for any application with lots of dependencies, specially Python related ones

physicsgraph 6y ago

Did you try the Docker-based approach after trying Python's virtualenv? Or did you go directly to Docker?

sdepablos 6y ago
No, I've using virtualenv for quite some time and I still use it when I'm the person in control of the dependencies, though I'm moving little by little to the docker way. Why? Because sometimes the problem is not only on the dependencies, but in Python itself. As an example, as of today gcloud does not support Python 3.9.

fuzzybear3965 6y ago

I've recently spent a few hours in NixOS land. I even built my own ISO and booted into it from an SD card. If you want a 30 minute intro to getting started then just ping me. I'm en route to something like what you want and I'm not far ahead of you.

setheron 6y ago

Reach out to me if you want to learn Nix I'm always happy to help people climb the steep learning curve

stack_underflow 6y ago
Curious, does one need to use nixOS for an optimal experience? I've been using debian for a long time and would prefer not to have to switch OSs but the idea of using nix for having full control over my package graph is very tempting. I've been somewhat procrastinating on trying nix as I've heard GNU Guix has a similar feature set and haven't been able to decide on which one to dive into... My ideal setup would be to just be able to run a single shell script that configures a new machine to the exact state of all my other dev machines. I have a shell script that somewhat does this but it's not completely unattended and still requires a lot of manual config for certain steps. Aside from that my main use case is being able to easily share a dev/build environment with others for ensuring that they can compile a certain project exactly as I do. For now I just use docker but it's frustrating not having explicit control over the layer cache and being able to tell it what to cache and what not to.
- ris 6y ago
  > Curious, does one need to use nixOS for an optimal experience? My experience: no. I've been very happily using Nix on debian for years. Debian gives me my boring desktop apps (I have very very boring tastes), almost all my tinkering and development starts with drawing all the prerequisites from Nix. The only times you get weirdness from using non-NixOS linux are things like running opengl apps, which simply require a wrapper script like `nixGL` to function properly. And darwin Nix is just about the only thing that makes macos a bearable platform for me.
sdepablos 6y ago
Thanks setheron. If I find the time (the eternal issue) I may to take you on your word )