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Personally, I envision a world like blade runner 2049. Humans thrive with technology and the earth ceases to be our parent, providing for us. I don't personal

Personally, I envision a world like blade runner 2049. Humans thrive with technology and the earth ceases to be our parent, providing for us. I don't personally worry about the collapse of the ecosystem as some major long term issue. Major extinction events have occurred in the past, and it portends a massive explosion of diversity as life adapts to the new ecosystem. In a few million years our AI ancestors will tend an amazing garden of native, artificial and synthetic hybrid life. And if we don't make it... multicellular life will continue to flourish and evolve.

walleeee 6y ago
> Humans thrive with technology and the earth ceases to be our parent, providing for us. What leads you to believe this? I often see similar sentiments on this website. I don't understand it. Maybe I'm missing something. High technology is fragile. As far as I can tell, it's nowhere close to self-sufficient. It's the pinnacle of a massive edifice whose foundation is biology: in particular non-human life. Kick that out and the whole thing collapses. > And if we don't make it... multicellular life will continue to flourish and evolve. This does seem reasonably likely. Life is resilient. Human life and human engineering, not so much.
hh3k0 6y ago
Wow. Just wow. That has to be the dumbest comment about climate change and biodiversity collapse I've read so far. If you are not concerned about anything which is not still impacting earth after time-scales that are approaching aeons have passed then you will surely have no qualms about wiring me all your money -- and hell, take some loans before you do that -- because what is it in the grand scheme of things, am I right?
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- Mc_Big_G 6y ago
  The height of nihilism. "I don't care what happens to humanity..."
jeffbee 6y ago
Imagine watching Blade Runner and thinking "humans thrive".
titzer 6y ago
> Major extinction events have occurred in the past, and it portends a massive explosion of diversity I'm not sure if you grasp the concept of extinction: the permanent removal of species from the ecosystem. Mass extinctions don't "portend a massive explosion of diversity" they literally signal the end of diversity. Ecosystems take millions of years to recover as there are few or no species left that fill prior ecological niches to provide ecosystem services. Biodiversity is not the result of extinction, it's what happens between extinction events as millions upon millions of mutations build up viable species. It's like cutting down all the trees in the forest and declaring "but in the long run, this will be good for the forest! Think of all the trees that will eventually grow here!"
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walleeee 6y ago

> Humans thrive with technology and the earth ceases to be our parent, providing for us. What leads you to believe this? I often see similar sentiments on this website. I don't understand it. Maybe I'm missing something. High technology is fragile. As far as I can tell, it's nowhere close to self-sufficient. It's the pinnacle of a massive edifice whose foundation is biology: in particular non-human life. Kick that out and the whole thing collapses. > And if we don't make it... multicellular life will continue to flourish and evolve. This does seem reasonably likely. Life is resilient. Human life and human engineering, not so much.

hh3k0 6y ago

Wow. Just wow. That has to be the dumbest comment about climate change and biodiversity collapse I've read so far. If you are not concerned about anything which is not still impacting earth after time-scales that are approaching aeons have passed then you will surely have no qualms about wiring me all your money -- and hell, take some loans before you do that -- because what is it in the grand scheme of things, am I right?

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Mc_Big_G 6y ago
The height of nihilism. "I don't care what happens to humanity..."

jeffbee 6y ago

Imagine watching Blade Runner and thinking "humans thrive".

titzer 6y ago

> Major extinction events have occurred in the past, and it portends a massive explosion of diversity I'm not sure if you grasp the concept of extinction: the permanent removal of species from the ecosystem. Mass extinctions don't "portend a massive explosion of diversity" they literally signal the end of diversity. Ecosystems take millions of years to recover as there are few or no species left that fill prior ecological niches to provide ecosystem services. Biodiversity is not the result of extinction, it's what happens between extinction events as millions upon millions of mutations build up viable species. It's like cutting down all the trees in the forest and declaring "but in the long run, this will be good for the forest! Think of all the trees that will eventually grow here!"

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