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Careful about this source. NTD is a part of the media empire of Falun Gong and related exile Chinese alt-right groups in the US. I would not count them as tru

Careful about this source. NTD is a part of the media empire of Falun Gong and related exile Chinese alt-right groups in the US. I would not count them as trustworthy at all.

notRobot 6y ago
Here's an alternative source: https://theepochtimes.com/zoom-shared-american-user-data-with-beijing-to-ensure-access-to-chinese-market-court-documents-show_3627905.html https://theepochtimes.com/zoom-shared-american-user-data-wit...
- bigpumpkin 6y ago
  hahahaha Epoch Times as an alternative source to NTD. Now I've seen it all.
  - notRobot 6y ago
    Yeah, when I linked it I was unaware of the associations of the two websites. I have since educated myself on the matter and agree that trusting this article isn't the best idea, and that the [flag] was justified.
- abakker 6y ago
  They are also a highly suspect source also associated with Falun Gong.
- throwaway4good 6y ago
  Which is also part of the same media empire ...
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the_duke 6y ago
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/china-based-executive-us-telecommunications-company-charged-disrupting-video-meetings https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/china-based-executive-us-tele... https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/12/18/zoom-helped-china-surveillance https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/12/18/zoom-he... > Jin monitored Zoom’s video system for discussions of political and religious topics deemed unacceptable by China’s ruling Communist Party, the complaint states, and he gave government officials the names, email addresses and other sensitive information of users, even those outside China.
- 52-6F-62 6y ago
  That’s a different story and set of circumstances than the title article.
  - trickstra 6y ago
    How so? Both articles talk about the same incident, and the washington post says it comes from unsealed FBI complaint. If US users talked on Zoom about Tiananmen square and Zoom terminated the meeting and gave Chinese government the usernames, that to me qualifies as "Zoom shared US User Data with Beijing"
underseacables 6y ago
With China, ANY source is more trustworthy than Chinese state media and its affiliates. It may be Falun Gong but at least it’s not the Ministry of State Security.
mikeatwork 6y ago
Even Zoom admits it https://blog.zoom.us/improving-our-policies-as-we-continue-to-enable-global-collaboration/ https://blog.zoom.us/improving-our-policies-as-we-continue-t...

Careful about this source. NTD is a part of the media empire of Falun Gong and related exile Chinese alt-right groups in the US. I would not count them as trustworthy at all.

notRobot 6y ago

Here's an alternative source: https://theepochtimes.com/zoom-shared-american-user-data-with-beijing-to-ensure-access-to-chinese-market-court-documents-show_3627905.html https://theepochtimes.com/zoom-shared-american-user-data-wit...

bigpumpkin 6y ago
hahahaha Epoch Times as an alternative source to NTD. Now I've seen it all.
- notRobot 6y ago
  Yeah, when I linked it I was unaware of the associations of the two websites. I have since educated myself on the matter and agree that trusting this article isn't the best idea, and that the [flag] was justified.
abakker 6y ago
They are also a highly suspect source also associated with Falun Gong.
throwaway4good 6y ago
Which is also part of the same media empire ...
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the_duke 6y ago

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/china-based-executive-us-telecommunications-company-charged-disrupting-video-meetings https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/china-based-executive-us-tele... https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/12/18/zoom-helped-china-surveillance https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/12/18/zoom-he... > Jin monitored Zoom’s video system for discussions of political and religious topics deemed unacceptable by China’s ruling Communist Party, the complaint states, and he gave government officials the names, email addresses and other sensitive information of users, even those outside China.

52-6F-62 6y ago
That’s a different story and set of circumstances than the title article.
- trickstra 6y ago
  How so? Both articles talk about the same incident, and the washington post says it comes from unsealed FBI complaint. If US users talked on Zoom about Tiananmen square and Zoom terminated the meeting and gave Chinese government the usernames, that to me qualifies as "Zoom shared US User Data with Beijing"

underseacables 6y ago

With China, ANY source is more trustworthy than Chinese state media and its affiliates. It may be Falun Gong but at least it’s not the Ministry of State Security.

mikeatwork 6y ago

Even Zoom admits it https://blog.zoom.us/improving-our-policies-as-we-continue-to-enable-global-collaboration/ https://blog.zoom.us/improving-our-policies-as-we-continue-t...