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>That isn't how people are persuaded, that isn't how people ever were persuaded, and that isn't how people ever will be persuaded. Why would anybody have to be
by Bayart 6y ago
>That isn't how people are persuaded, that isn't how people ever were persuaded, and that isn't how people ever will be persuaded.
Why would anybody have to be persuaded ? The point of thinking isn't just to manipulate people.
- quickthrower2 6y agoThe original article is about a manipulation technique, hence the focus on that aspect
- ahelwer 6y agoThis comment reminds me of a tweet I saw years ago, that roughly said "programmers read posts like a compiler: stopping immediately & printing an error when they see something they disagree with" Read the very next couple of sentences in my original comment.
- hitekker 6y agoThe point is to persuade yourself. Or rather, to satisfy the collection of niggling doubts[1] we call the "inner critic". That voice constantly questioning us in our own heads, poking holes in our logic, and ensuring we're actually thinking and not pretending to think. The problem with fallacies, as I see it, is they're often employed to fool that inner critic. They can dress up any emotional, thoughtless reaction in the guise of reason. "I thought that person was rude" becomes "I believe this person is engaging in an ad-hominen attack." Or "they have a belief I don't like" becomes "Clearly, the other person has a case of confirmation bias." I think our inner critic will detect us taking such mental shortcuts; it won't be quieted so easily. I also think that's why fallacy-first thinkers will spam their views across threads. Unable to persuade themselves, let alone others, they resort to rhetoric to silence their own creeping doubts. [1] http://www.peirce.org/writings/p107.html http://www.peirce.org/writings/p107.html