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When you talk about China, are you talking about China as a country, or the Chinese government, or its people? If you are disgusted by some of the things the g

When you talk about China, are you talking about China as a country, or the Chinese government, or its people? If you are disgusted by some of the things the government did, wouldn’t it be more appropriate to specify that? The Trump administration is absolutely a disaster and “didn’t do anything warrant a positive article,” but I wouldn’t call the U.S. names because of the government.

underseacables 6y ago
There’s a parable here that is horrible apt: The NAZI’s ordered the murder of the Jewish people, but it was the German rank and file citizen that made the gas flow, and the ovens burn. I don’t think we can separate the government of China from its people. Did you forget about the recent leak of communist party members and how they’ve worked their way into senior government, and business positions? https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6215946537001 https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6215946537001
- franklampard 6y ago
  Of course you can. Making equivalent what a government does to its country is myopic and racist. American people aren’t against climate change and exited Paris Climate Accord, the Trump administration did. Ordinary Chinese citizen did not censor the reporters, the government did. Your Nazi example makes no sense. I assume you can put some blame on the people who made the gas if they know its purpose. But you wouldn’t blame every German national during WWII for Genocide.
  - underseacables 6y ago
    Assuming for a moment that your comment is not sarcasm, I point you to first the excellent book “Hitler’s Willing Executioners” by Daniel Goldhagen which makes a solid case that had it not been for a compliant German citizenry, much of the Holocaust might never have happened. So you tell me: Who operates the Chinese concentration camps?
    - franklampard 6y ago
      You
zepto 6y ago
The Trump administration is absurd, but isn’t responsible for a genocide.
- franklampard 6y ago
  What’s your point?
  - zepto 6y ago
    “didn’t do anything warrant a positive article,” ...is a false equivalence.
boboche 6y ago
When 70 million people still vote for another 4 years however...

underseacables 6y ago

There’s a parable here that is horrible apt: The NAZI’s ordered the murder of the Jewish people, but it was the German rank and file citizen that made the gas flow, and the ovens burn. I don’t think we can separate the government of China from its people. Did you forget about the recent leak of communist party members and how they’ve worked their way into senior government, and business positions? https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6215946537001 https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6215946537001

franklampard 6y ago
Of course you can. Making equivalent what a government does to its country is myopic and racist. American people aren’t against climate change and exited Paris Climate Accord, the Trump administration did. Ordinary Chinese citizen did not censor the reporters, the government did. Your Nazi example makes no sense. I assume you can put some blame on the people who made the gas if they know its purpose. But you wouldn’t blame every German national during WWII for Genocide.
- underseacables 6y ago
  Assuming for a moment that your comment is not sarcasm, I point you to first the excellent book “Hitler’s Willing Executioners” by Daniel Goldhagen which makes a solid case that had it not been for a compliant German citizenry, much of the Holocaust might never have happened. So you tell me: Who operates the Chinese concentration camps?
  - franklampard 6y ago
    You

zepto 6y ago

The Trump administration is absurd, but isn’t responsible for a genocide.

franklampard 6y ago
What’s your point?
- zepto 6y ago
  “didn’t do anything warrant a positive article,” ...is a false equivalence.

boboche 6y ago

When 70 million people still vote for another 4 years however...