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Getting into why some totalitarian measures might be reasonable: I suspect more extreme up-front measures would actually stop the virus up-front. As a result,
by noahtallen 6y ago
Getting into why some totalitarian measures might be reasonable:
I suspect more extreme up-front measures would actually stop the virus up-front. As a result, the other restrictions like masks wouldn’t be necessary for as long. So overall, one might say that the approach of nations like China, while more strict up front, had resulted in less overall restrictions in the long term, many fewer deaths, and even more economic activity. In the case of an out of control virus, people would be too scared to fly, for example, so economic activity would still be severely hindered. (Even with no restrictions at all.)
What are the alternatives for dealing with pandemics which have the possibility to entirely destroy human life and society? If nothing at all is done by governments, it becomes up to individual responsibility and the markets to control the situation. This only works if people are too scared to do anything or go anywhere, which means things would have to get really bad (read: a lot of death) before it would work.
What is the purpose of government if not to provide a safe and stable society to live in? We (unless you’re an anarchist) want laws and enforcement so that we can be free to live our lives without threat from others. You could even argue that infecting others when you knew you could avoid it is something we should restrict. In that way, wearing masks isn’t totalitarian, instead it’s a law which protects us from others.
- hammock 6y ago>I suspect more extreme up-front measures would actually stop the virus up-front. And if we were to allow these "more extreme measures," what's to stop a hostile actor from weaponizing our submission to totalitarian regime, by creating and releasing more viruses, in order to extend and increase said concentration of power? You assume benevelonce. You really WANT Drumpf to go full Pol Pot on your ass? "Only if he does what /I/ say, which is good for society, and not anything else!" Don't you see the flaw in your logic here? Haven't we see this play out in history many times before?
- JoBrad 6y agoIf it’s just one person or even a group of people arbitrarily saying what we should do, I’d agree with you. On the other hand, we have a genuine health crisis and medical professionals are telling us what we should do. Further, there is an end in sight, and no way to extend those curtailments due to other reasons not related to health. Also, the powers that the states are exercising are ones they have held since before the US was even a country, and have been upheld since, with restrictions. Hand waving about dictatorship doesn’t really apply here, despite the extreme measures being taken.