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NDAs are a joke at larger scale (and pretty much anything important is of larger scale). A lot of Facebook internals are an exact clone of Google's due to poach

NDAs are a joke at larger scale (and pretty much anything important is of larger scale). A lot of Facebook internals are an exact clone of Google's due to poaching.

rl3 6y ago
The perils of unlimited money: culture collapse and technologicical groupthink that stifles true innovation. It's kind of unrealistic to expect a human being to somehow rigorously partition their creative process to respect a myriad of complex legal restrictions. Imagine your profession is to envision the future. Now imagine the companies you've worked for all have very restrictive NDAs. You can't reason out the future very well when pieces of this thought tree have veritable locks on them; their presence alone jarring to creativity itself.
- donatj 6y ago
  > It's kind of unrealistic to expect a human being to somehow rigorously partition their creative process Such this. Everything I build, regardless of for who, ends up having a very similar smell. I reached conclusions about how things work well years ago. It’s difficult to reinvent the wheel when you already feel like you’ve perfected it.
  - rangoon626 6y ago
    It would be like expecting a woodworker to come up with new techniques for each project. You develop a style, a way of doing things, and your employer is buying that from you.
    - dannyw 6y ago
      There’s a very big difference between “I implement services this way because I’ve learned from google it is the most reliable” and “in 2022 Apple is going to launch VR goggles.”
- q-big 6y ago
  > The perils of unlimited money: culture collapse and technologicical groupthink that stifles true innovation. I would rather claim that this is a peril of laziness.
ghaff 6y ago
NDAs aside, there's a huge amount of knowledge diffusion throughout all industries. (And, if there weren't, gaining "experience" wouldn't be worth much. Why would I hire you as a senior person if you were literally unable to apply anything you learned in prior jobs?)
cainxinth 6y ago
NDAs are notoriously difficult to enforce, especially when the party demanding the agreement is significantly more sophisticated and resourced than the party it hopes to constrain the liberties of. Like say Apple, the most valuable company in the world.
webmobdev 6y ago
And that's why many of these tech giants (Adobe, Apple Inc., Google, Intel, Intuit, Pixar, Lucasfilm and eBay) have illegal agreements not to poach or hire each others top employees for a certain period of time. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Tech_Employee_Antitrust_Litigation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Tech_Employee_Antitrust_L...
- saagarjha 6y ago
  Had, ideally.

NDAs are a joke at larger scale (and pretty much anything important is of larger scale). A lot of Facebook internals are an exact clone of Google's due to poaching.

rl3 6y ago

The perils of unlimited money: culture collapse and technologicical groupthink that stifles true innovation. It's kind of unrealistic to expect a human being to somehow rigorously partition their creative process to respect a myriad of complex legal restrictions. Imagine your profession is to envision the future. Now imagine the companies you've worked for all have very restrictive NDAs. You can't reason out the future very well when pieces of this thought tree have veritable locks on them; their presence alone jarring to creativity itself.

donatj 6y ago
> It's kind of unrealistic to expect a human being to somehow rigorously partition their creative process Such this. Everything I build, regardless of for who, ends up having a very similar smell. I reached conclusions about how things work well years ago. It’s difficult to reinvent the wheel when you already feel like you’ve perfected it.
- rangoon626 6y ago
  It would be like expecting a woodworker to come up with new techniques for each project. You develop a style, a way of doing things, and your employer is buying that from you.
  - dannyw 6y ago
    There’s a very big difference between “I implement services this way because I’ve learned from google it is the most reliable” and “in 2022 Apple is going to launch VR goggles.”
q-big 6y ago
> The perils of unlimited money: culture collapse and technologicical groupthink that stifles true innovation. I would rather claim that this is a peril of laziness.

ghaff 6y ago

NDAs aside, there's a huge amount of knowledge diffusion throughout all industries. (And, if there weren't, gaining "experience" wouldn't be worth much. Why would I hire you as a senior person if you were literally unable to apply anything you learned in prior jobs?)

cainxinth 6y ago

NDAs are notoriously difficult to enforce, especially when the party demanding the agreement is significantly more sophisticated and resourced than the party it hopes to constrain the liberties of. Like say Apple, the most valuable company in the world.

webmobdev 6y ago

And that's why many of these tech giants (Adobe, Apple Inc., Google, Intel, Intuit, Pixar, Lucasfilm and eBay) have illegal agreements not to poach or hire each others top employees for a certain period of time. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Tech_Employee_Antitrust_Litigation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Tech_Employee_Antitrust_L...

saagarjha 6y ago
Had, ideally.