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I'm not sure how this relates to Apple specifically, apart from their reputation for secrecy. What large tech company allows its employees to disclose details o

I'm not sure how this relates to Apple specifically, apart from their reputation for secrecy. What large tech company allows its employees to disclose details of cancelled projects?

cowsandmilk 6y ago
I’ve been on cancelled projects that produced patents, which inherently is disclosure if details.
- mypalmike 6y ago
  Protected disclosure is rather different than random blogging. The latter is often specifically called out in employment contracts as requiring comms sign off.
- mxfh 6y ago
  Good clue: How many Victors work at apple? https://patents.google.com/?q=(inc.)&inventor=Victor&assignee=apple&before=priority:20120101&after=priority:20060101&oq=(inc.)+inventor:(Victor)+assignee:apple+before:priority:20120101+after:priority:20060101 https://patents.google.com/?q=(inc.)&inventor=Victor&assigne...
fourthark 6y ago
And that was the mistake.
eternalban 6y ago
Bret thinks the work he did at Apple are his: "my creations". I definitely have a problem with companies claiming the right to your brain 24/7 outside of office, in the proverbial shower, dreaming up an idea entirely unrelated to one's employment. But the very nature of the transaction to work on UI ideas for Apple is that Apple would "own" those ideas. Also, my Firefox browser twice popped up warning about a slow page when I enabled JS for that page, and I finally gave up. And all this, simply to see a basic text with an empty box. So, this will be an unpopular thought, but it is possible that his prototypes were in fact carefully considered and considered non-optimal, for a variety of practical reasons.
- Apocryphon 6y ago
  That page was made in 2011 and doesn’t seem to have been updated since.
  - joubert 6y ago
    The layout (spacing of content relative to margin) is also pretty poor for reading on mobile phones, and those had existed for a couple of years by 2011.

I'm not sure how this relates to Apple specifically, apart from their reputation for secrecy. What large tech company allows its employees to disclose details of cancelled projects?

cowsandmilk 6y ago

I’ve been on cancelled projects that produced patents, which inherently is disclosure if details.

mypalmike 6y ago
Protected disclosure is rather different than random blogging. The latter is often specifically called out in employment contracts as requiring comms sign off.
mxfh 6y ago
Good clue: How many Victors work at apple? https://patents.google.com/?q=(inc.)&inventor=Victor&assignee=apple&before=priority:20120101&after=priority:20060101&oq=(inc.)+inventor:(Victor)+assignee:apple+before:priority:20120101+after:priority:20060101 https://patents.google.com/?q=(inc.)&inventor=Victor&assigne...

fourthark 6y ago

And that was the mistake.

eternalban 6y ago

Bret thinks the work he did at Apple are his: "my creations". I definitely have a problem with companies claiming the right to your brain 24/7 outside of office, in the proverbial shower, dreaming up an idea entirely unrelated to one's employment. But the very nature of the transaction to work on UI ideas for Apple is that Apple would "own" those ideas. Also, my Firefox browser twice popped up warning about a slow page when I enabled JS for that page, and I finally gave up. And all this, simply to see a basic text with an empty box. So, this will be an unpopular thought, but it is possible that his prototypes were in fact carefully considered and considered non-optimal, for a variety of practical reasons.

Apocryphon 6y ago
That page was made in 2011 and doesn’t seem to have been updated since.
- joubert 6y ago
  The layout (spacing of content relative to margin) is also pretty poor for reading on mobile phones, and those had existed for a couple of years by 2011.