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I think you're pretty much wrong on that last point. The people I know who love Rails tend to rave about Ruby the language. It's not personally my favorite (spe

• cercatrova 6y ago
  How can you tell that that is due to them liking the language because they work with a nice framework on top of it? If I worked all day in a a language, I'd like at least some parts of it.
  • mypalmike 6y ago
    These people had experience with many other languages prior to Ruby. And they choose it for non-rails projects. A lot of the love for Ruby seems to center around the widespread use of generators and the clean syntax for invoking them. And some people truly love duck typing.
• pdimitar 6y ago
  People are raving about all sorts of stuff and that doesn't mean they know what they are talking about. I've been a party pooper on a Rails meetup before, people were extremely clueless where Ruby ends and Rails starts. Nothing wrong about it, but it can be a bit worrying sometimes how much misinformation is being spread. For the record, I like Ruby -- but no longer work with it. I feel there are languages that picked up its slack for years now. Might come back to it now with the 3.0 release (provided Rails works with it). Actually excited to see if it's better now. So I am not mindlessly hating. But "raving" about something is not a data point.