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What? You can absolutely blame them. Since the beginning they've explicitly marketed themselves as a higher quality, more streamlined alternative to traditional

What? You can absolutely blame them. Since the beginning they've explicitly marketed themselves as a higher quality, more streamlined alternative to traditional recruiting. If they've set up the incentives within their company such that the pressure to growth hack ruins their brand, that's clearly a founder/management-level problem.

cercatrova 6y ago
Whatever they say explicitly is a mirage. It's brand marketing 101. You never trust what a company says or portrays itself as, because doing so is just another tool to get customer attention. Instead, only assume that they're a corporation whose sole incentive is increasing profits. Then, extrapolate their actions from that axiom. Growth hacking does not damage their brand value and in fact might increase it, if they're successful. If more people use them, that's much more useful to their enduring brand value than whatever they'd have lost by spamming.
- throwaway1836 6y ago
  I see where you’re coming from, but it bums me out to see companies good and bad be lumped into one amalgam. I think you,’re saying you can’t trust TripleByte because they’re a company, because as you say “you can never trust what a company says”. In this case I actually know Ammon both personally and professionally. I met him when he was already a successful founder and I was a nobody years ago. I’ve had many more interactions with him since then, and my prior when I see something like this that could be a (pretty common) bug or malice is to strongly suspect… a bug. And I dunno, and maybe this isn’t a popular opinion (thus why using a throwaway account) but I actually think “companies” are actually pretty cool. A “company” made the laptop I’m typing this on (which is way better than the one I had a few years ago, and cheaper). A company got reusable rockets to work, and made the first electric car that many people actually like. I don’t think any of this would be possible without, you know, companies. So I’m definitely, like you, going to take what they say with a grain of salt but I’m not going to blanket say “you can never trust” just because they’re a company.

cercatrova 6y ago

Whatever they say explicitly is a mirage. It's brand marketing 101. You never trust what a company says or portrays itself as, because doing so is just another tool to get customer attention. Instead, only assume that they're a corporation whose sole incentive is increasing profits. Then, extrapolate their actions from that axiom. Growth hacking does not damage their brand value and in fact might increase it, if they're successful. If more people use them, that's much more useful to their enduring brand value than whatever they'd have lost by spamming.

throwaway1836 6y ago
I see where you’re coming from, but it bums me out to see companies good and bad be lumped into one amalgam. I think you,’re saying you can’t trust TripleByte because they’re a company, because as you say “you can never trust what a company says”. In this case I actually know Ammon both personally and professionally. I met him when he was already a successful founder and I was a nobody years ago. I’ve had many more interactions with him since then, and my prior when I see something like this that could be a (pretty common) bug or malice is to strongly suspect… a bug. And I dunno, and maybe this isn’t a popular opinion (thus why using a throwaway account) but I actually think “companies” are actually pretty cool. A “company” made the laptop I’m typing this on (which is way better than the one I had a few years ago, and cheaper). A company got reusable rockets to work, and made the first electric car that many people actually like. I don’t think any of this would be possible without, you know, companies. So I’m definitely, like you, going to take what they say with a grain of salt but I’m not going to blanket say “you can never trust” just because they’re a company.