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Just to be clear, I agree with you, but I'm half convinced the culture came first. Charity, being on an individual basis, is quicker moving than governmental a

by oddity 6y ago

Just to be clear, I agree with you, but I'm half convinced the culture came first. Charity, being on an individual basis, is quicker moving than governmental action. It fills the gaps, so to speak, and will (and should) always have a place, but the gaps of income inequality (among many other problems) are so deep and our society so incapable of moving to solve them, that we are left to rely on charity and helplessly pray to our Carnegie- or Apple- like demigods (I'm exaggerating a bit here). This problem seems to have a nasty feedback loop with the concentrating of wealth in that more wealth in fewer hands lessens the scope that those with wealth to give can see and increases the damage an actor can do (accidentally, intentionally, or through inaction). I question I have for some people who might read this: I suspect some people slightly more libertarian than I would argue that our society should have a greater emphasis on charity vs taxes, but I have no idea how that would be workable when starting with a huge disparity. UBI with automatic triggers like the Sahm rule, maybe? I don't know. I'm not well read here.

jelliclesfarm 6y ago
State enforced taxation will led to state dictated eugenics. That’s the best possible outcome. Worst case scenario: genocide. History informs us of this. I prefer that we choose charity over taxation to prevent worse outcomes than having to say ‘thank you’.
jelliclesfarm 6y ago
Look..I don’t know whose tender feelings were hurt that my last comment has been flagged, but we should stop beating around the bush and know the history of our collective humanity. google search that came up...anyone can search on their own. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/oct/06/spirit-of-eugenics-is-still-with-us-as-immigrants-know-to-their-cost https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/oct/06/spirit... [..] The persistence of eugenic ideas can been seen in debates about poverty. From the 1960s concept of the “culture of poverty” to David Cameron’s “troubled families” programme, postwar social policy has remained shackled to ideas incubated within the eugenic movement. It can be seen, too, in the population control movement – the belief that social problems in Africa or Asia are the products of overbreeding. Forced sterilisation may no longer be policy in the west, but western governments and NGOs have pressured countries such as India to sterilise tens of millions of its citizens. [..] When individuals make reproductive decisions on their own and based upon their ability to raise their families on their own, it’s called ‘family planning’ When other people and the state make reproductive choices on your behalf and for ‘collective welfare’, it’s called ‘eugenics’. Tax dollars going for collective welfare are always laced with agendas. When will we learn and how far back do we have to go to know that there is no such thing as free currency without strings attached. We must be free...To make decisions for us..and on our own.

by oddity 6y ago

jelliclesfarm 6y ago

State enforced taxation will led to state dictated eugenics. That’s the best possible outcome. Worst case scenario: genocide. History informs us of this. I prefer that we choose charity over taxation to prevent worse outcomes than having to say ‘thank you’.

jelliclesfarm 6y ago

Look..I don’t know whose tender feelings were hurt that my last comment has been flagged, but we should stop beating around the bush and know the history of our collective humanity. google search that came up...anyone can search on their own. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/oct/06/spirit-of-eugenics-is-still-with-us-as-immigrants-know-to-their-cost https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/oct/06/spirit... [..] The persistence of eugenic ideas can been seen in debates about poverty. From the 1960s concept of the “culture of poverty” to David Cameron’s “troubled families” programme, postwar social policy has remained shackled to ideas incubated within the eugenic movement. It can be seen, too, in the population control movement – the belief that social problems in Africa or Asia are the products of overbreeding. Forced sterilisation may no longer be policy in the west, but western governments and NGOs have pressured countries such as India to sterilise tens of millions of its citizens. [..] When individuals make reproductive decisions on their own and based upon their ability to raise their families on their own, it’s called ‘family planning’ When other people and the state make reproductive choices on your behalf and for ‘collective welfare’, it’s called ‘eugenics’. Tax dollars going for collective welfare are always laced with agendas. When will we learn and how far back do we have to go to know that there is no such thing as free currency without strings attached. We must be free...To make decisions for us..and on our own.