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It’s not a superior system when Americans’ votes carry an unequal weight or are outright suppressed. That is not a properly functioning democracy, and what you

It’s not a superior system when Americans’ votes carry an unequal weight or are outright suppressed. That is not a properly functioning democracy, and what you described above can be exploited to the extreme in such a case. Ultimately, we got lucky this past election, as in “unicorn levels”. What is going on in America is far from over and is going to ultimately be a generational struggle.

agensaequivocum 6y ago
No that is the literal design, as we are not a pure democratic system. The whole point is that states are sovereign except in a few specific areas, e.g., foreign relations, interstate commerce. The founders were terrified of a tyranny of the majority. So they designed a system that made it difficult. We did not get lucky.
- martimarkov 6y ago
  When my vote != everyone else's vote that is not a democracy. Just because everyone gets a say but we listen to these people more doesn't mean you have a democratic system. If anything you can for sure say it's not democratic.
  - refurb 6y ago
    That's because you're ignoring that it's the united states. Not one massive state. And again, that's intentional.
  - agensaequivocum 6y ago
    Yeah because we are a constitutional republic. The founders were not a fan of pure democracy for good reasons.
refurb 6y ago
No, it's a "feature" not a "bug". The design was entirely intentional. How are American's votes equally weighted if 4 states (really 4 metro areas) get to decide who the president is every election?
- disabled 6y ago
  Because it is about people being equal, not areas being equal. That is the problem.
  - nyokodo 6y ago
    No it isn’t. It’s about citizens of the largest metro areas in the country, ridiculously skewed to one party, wanting to rule over the rest of the country with no hope of being opposed. The Founders anticipated this thankfully and set up the electoral college and the sovereignty of the states.
  - agensaequivocum 6y ago
    People are equal but their representation within the federal government is unequal because the states are sovereign. The federal government is supposed to do very little. Constitution gives it a few enumerated powers. Everything else is left to the states. However, beginning the the 20th century the feds began to vastly encroach on many areas by abusing the "interstate commerce" clause. For example, the court ruled the fed could limit an individual from growing "too much" wheat on his own property for his own consumption. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard_v._Filburn https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard_v._Filburn. Or perhaps a still existing federal law that prohibits a handgun from being pissed within 1000ft of a school.

agensaequivocum 6y ago

No that is the literal design, as we are not a pure democratic system. The whole point is that states are sovereign except in a few specific areas, e.g., foreign relations, interstate commerce. The founders were terrified of a tyranny of the majority. So they designed a system that made it difficult. We did not get lucky.

martimarkov 6y ago
When my vote != everyone else's vote that is not a democracy. Just because everyone gets a say but we listen to these people more doesn't mean you have a democratic system. If anything you can for sure say it's not democratic.
- refurb 6y ago
  That's because you're ignoring that it's the united states. Not one massive state. And again, that's intentional.
- agensaequivocum 6y ago
  Yeah because we are a constitutional republic. The founders were not a fan of pure democracy for good reasons.

refurb 6y ago

No, it's a "feature" not a "bug". The design was entirely intentional. How are American's votes equally weighted if 4 states (really 4 metro areas) get to decide who the president is every election?

disabled 6y ago
Because it is about people being equal, not areas being equal. That is the problem.
- nyokodo 6y ago
  No it isn’t. It’s about citizens of the largest metro areas in the country, ridiculously skewed to one party, wanting to rule over the rest of the country with no hope of being opposed. The Founders anticipated this thankfully and set up the electoral college and the sovereignty of the states.
- agensaequivocum 6y ago
  People are equal but their representation within the federal government is unequal because the states are sovereign. The federal government is supposed to do very little. Constitution gives it a few enumerated powers. Everything else is left to the states. However, beginning the the 20th century the feds began to vastly encroach on many areas by abusing the "interstate commerce" clause. For example, the court ruled the fed could limit an individual from growing "too much" wheat on his own property for his own consumption. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard_v._Filburn https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard_v._Filburn. Or perhaps a still existing federal law that prohibits a handgun from being pissed within 1000ft of a school.