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Dumb question: would the UK no longer be the UK at that point?

mhh__ 6y ago
De jure yes, de facto no (England and Wales is still technically the UK). FWIW, the Tories probably going to be in power for at least another half-decade or two.
- iso947 6y ago
  Wales is a principality. Kingdoms are England Sctland and Wales
  - mkl 6y ago
    It seems that officially Wales is not a principality, but there also seems to be some disagreement: https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/un-report-causes-stir-wales-1906214 https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/un-report-caus...
Smaug123 6y ago
Well, the full name of the country is "the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland". I imagine in that case it would become "the United Kingdom of Great Britain" and then "the United Kingdom of England and Wales", and would continue to be abbreviated as "UK".
- toyg 6y ago
  A bit like what the "Federal Republic of Yugoslavia" was in 1993-2003, after which they decided to face reality and renamed themselves "Serbia and Montenegro" (and eventually just Serbia after Montenegro left).
- Bayart 6y ago
  Isn't Wales already part of the Kingdom of England ?
  - acjohnson55 6y ago
    Wales was annexed to the Kingdom of England in the middle ages, but the Kingdom of England ceased to exist in 1707, when the United Kingdom was formed. Today, Wales is thought of as a constituent country of the United Kingdom, on par with England, Scotland, and Northern Ireland. From a standpoint of the monarchy, it's all one unified realm of The Crown.
iso947 6y ago
The United Kingdom hasn’t been United for 4 years and hasn’t been a kingdom for nearly 70
- AnimalMuppet 6y ago
  Could you explain your basis for saying both of those statements?
  - mhh__ 6y ago
    1) Brexit has absolutely split the country 2) The queen has now reigned for 68 years
    - AnimalMuppet 6y ago
      1) "United" refers to the kingdoms being united, not the people. 2) It's still a kingdom, whether a king or queen rules.
      - mhh__ 6y ago
        The comment was obviously written in jest, so I was playing along.
- acjohnson55 6y ago
  It is literally both of those things, even if it might not be within the next decade.

De jure yes, de facto no (England and Wales is still technically the UK). FWIW, the Tories probably going to be in power for at least another half-decade or two.

iso947 6y ago
Wales is a principality. Kingdoms are England Sctland and Wales
- mkl 6y ago
  It seems that officially Wales is not a principality, but there also seems to be some disagreement: https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/un-report-causes-stir-wales-1906214 https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/un-report-caus...

Smaug123 6y ago

Well, the full name of the country is "the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland". I imagine in that case it would become "the United Kingdom of Great Britain" and then "the United Kingdom of England and Wales", and would continue to be abbreviated as "UK".

toyg 6y ago
A bit like what the "Federal Republic of Yugoslavia" was in 1993-2003, after which they decided to face reality and renamed themselves "Serbia and Montenegro" (and eventually just Serbia after Montenegro left).
Bayart 6y ago
Isn't Wales already part of the Kingdom of England ?
- acjohnson55 6y ago
  Wales was annexed to the Kingdom of England in the middle ages, but the Kingdom of England ceased to exist in 1707, when the United Kingdom was formed. Today, Wales is thought of as a constituent country of the United Kingdom, on par with England, Scotland, and Northern Ireland. From a standpoint of the monarchy, it's all one unified realm of The Crown.

iso947 6y ago

The United Kingdom hasn’t been United for 4 years and hasn’t been a kingdom for nearly 70

AnimalMuppet 6y ago
Could you explain your basis for saying both of those statements?
- mhh__ 6y ago
  1) Brexit has absolutely split the country 2) The queen has now reigned for 68 years
  - AnimalMuppet 6y ago
    1) "United" refers to the kingdoms being united, not the people. 2) It's still a kingdom, whether a king or queen rules.
    - mhh__ 6y ago
      The comment was obviously written in jest, so I was playing along.
acjohnson55 6y ago
It is literally both of those things, even if it might not be within the next decade.