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I don’t get your comment. First you agree we don’t like to share our email and then you suggest going to a 4th party as a workaround. If requiring an email was

I don’t get your comment. First you agree we don’t like to share our email and then you suggest going to a 4th party as a workaround. If requiring an email was ok, you wouldn’t having to use workarounds. A comment like OP has 2 purposes: saves me from ever trying the app; suggests to the author that they made an unpopular choice.

hashkb 6y ago
I wish I had a weekly triple vote I could use on this comment.
- saurik 6y ago
  FWIW, I wish I had such a thing for the comment above that one :/. One of the only (arguably "the only"!) remaining decentralized platform protocols we have on the Internet is e-mail, and using it for authentication is so much better for everyone than virtually every single alternative (absolutely including even a bespoke username). That tech people, of all people, hate on email so much that they refuse to give it out or use systems built on it--seemingly preferring worlds with walled gardens of centralized moderation and push notifications with permissioned / gated sign-in systems--makes the world universally worse for everyone. Being so uptight about "spam" in general is a big reason why we are falling into the surveillance capitalism dystopia that even end users are finally waking up to hate. (For the record, my email address is saurik@saurik.com.)
  - BlueTemplar 6y ago
    > e-mail, and using it for authentication is so much better for everyone than virtually every single alternative (absolutely including even a bespoke username) Why is it better than a username?
    - yoz-y 6y ago
      Time and again it was shown that people forget their user names. At least if you use the same email address (or a few), you will not get locked out.
  - stjohnswarts 6y ago
    Uh no. If you want to test your spam filters go ahead. All they really need is a name and login for me to try their product, if it works well for me I'll be happy to pony up my email and payment information. Otherwise, I'll move along and they won't have an email to bug me with.
read_if_gay_ 6y ago
You can sign in with Apple and avoid sharing your email with exactly 2 taps. This "workaround" is available to everyone to whom this app is available in the first place, and it is literally less work than actually typing in your email, and it doesn't involve a 4th party. So not trying the app because of that is completely pointless, and the same goes for complaining about requiring email.
- bamboleo 6y ago
  Apple logins are great, but they don’t save you from spam nor guarantee that they don’t also ask for more personal info right after.

hashkb 6y ago

I wish I had a weekly triple vote I could use on this comment.

saurik 6y ago
FWIW, I wish I had such a thing for the comment above that one :/. One of the only (arguably "the only"!) remaining decentralized platform protocols we have on the Internet is e-mail, and using it for authentication is so much better for everyone than virtually every single alternative (absolutely including even a bespoke username). That tech people, of all people, hate on email so much that they refuse to give it out or use systems built on it--seemingly preferring worlds with walled gardens of centralized moderation and push notifications with permissioned / gated sign-in systems--makes the world universally worse for everyone. Being so uptight about "spam" in general is a big reason why we are falling into the surveillance capitalism dystopia that even end users are finally waking up to hate. (For the record, my email address is saurik@saurik.com.)
- BlueTemplar 6y ago
  > e-mail, and using it for authentication is so much better for everyone than virtually every single alternative (absolutely including even a bespoke username) Why is it better than a username?
  - yoz-y 6y ago
    Time and again it was shown that people forget their user names. At least if you use the same email address (or a few), you will not get locked out.
- stjohnswarts 6y ago
  Uh no. If you want to test your spam filters go ahead. All they really need is a name and login for me to try their product, if it works well for me I'll be happy to pony up my email and payment information. Otherwise, I'll move along and they won't have an email to bug me with.

read_if_gay_ 6y ago

You can sign in with Apple and avoid sharing your email with exactly 2 taps. This "workaround" is available to everyone to whom this app is available in the first place, and it is literally less work than actually typing in your email, and it doesn't involve a 4th party. So not trying the app because of that is completely pointless, and the same goes for complaining about requiring email.

bamboleo 6y ago
Apple logins are great, but they don’t save you from spam nor guarantee that they don’t also ask for more personal info right after.