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Can you say who you work for? I don’t want to work for you either. You seem oblivious to the fact that you can still be effective but not a shitty security tea
by selykg 6y ago
Can you say who you work for? I don’t want to work for you either.
You seem oblivious to the fact that you can still be effective but not a shitty security team.
Your way of approaching this literally makes people who should listen to you and trust you want to do the opposite. What an awful security team you’re part of.
- SCHiM 6y agoOver time security measures always cause friction. You'll always be the annoying presence, the naysayer, the 'needlessly' difficult person. Effective security imposes restrictions, hurts egos and interferes in natural social responses. It's funny you say that my way of working literally makes people want to do the opposite of trust me, when I send them a phishing e-mail that's exactly what I'm aiming for ;P
- runlevel1 6y agoI've worked at a place where the security team were a detached, nagging presence. Devs only interacted with them when they had to, so security became an afterthought. I've also worked at a place where the security team were trusted collaborators. Devs were comfortable communicating with them. Their security skills improved over time, and so did the security of the software they wrote. The latter strategy is far more effective at moving the needle over the long term.
- bluntfang 6y agocan you rephrase this without the acerbic vitriol? I can't really take a security discussion seriously with someone who can't communicate professionally.
- eropple 6y agoTreating people this way is not itself professional. The inhumanity of the people with power and the willingness to exert it upon others in this fashion is deserving of a little, as you say, vitriol. (I would say "contempt".) Treat. People. Decently.
- bluntfang 6y agoWhy did you post this to GP? He's being an asshole.
- jakelazaroff 6y agoWeren't you just complaining about profanity and name-calling?
- selykg 6y agoBeginning to think he’s just a troll
- jakelazaroff 6y agoAh, yes — merely supporting fake bonuses during a historic economic crisis is perfectly professional, but describing that as awful is “acerbic vitriol”.
- nignog20 6y agoImagine using the phrase "acerbic vitriol" when simply saying "sarcasm" would suffice. I cannot take a discussion seriously who cannot communicate professionally and doesn't know when to use fluffy academic lexicon